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My Master of Reality signed by Geezer Butler

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I reopened this discussion. First of all, everyone please calm down. Treat each other decently, even if you disagree.

  1. Eric Longo has never tried to get me to remove anyone from this site. Eric is here almost every day, helping new members and others who need it.

  2. Tim, if Eric warned you to be careful about buying from Stephen Duncan, I hope you listened. I would have told you the same thing.

  3. Just because someone is a member of this site doesn't mean I think they're OK, but most are. It means they're not regularly being too disruptive and aren't spammers. Although I've removed members for others reasons. I've left Stephen Duncan a member out of fairness, since his material is discussed every now and then, often by me.

Tim, we've talked a lot since last year and I know you're a good guy, with the best of intentions. Eric is, too.

Regarding proof photos, sometimes called "photo proof": 

Proof means evidence. The photos are being used as evidence of the autograph being signed.

Here's Webster's Dictionary's definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proof

And if they are not the seller's own photos, he is almost certainly violating someone's copyright. 

BTW, Mr Steffman said Autographs99 has used photos he took as proof photos for big dollar items.

Gentlemen- because someone has a pic of someone signing does not mean they are offering it as proof. Lance is one of the best in the biz, he is putting those up there to show he has met the celebrity, that he is out there getting graphs. That guy is as honest as they come, enough with the trash talk because some of you assume he is putting up there as proof.

Justin Steffman is a paparazzi, a professional photographer. Autographs99 used his images, which are copyrighted, to sell autographs.

Sounds like the signature is authentic from the few responses about the autograph itself. Hope this helps the original poster.

Hi Joe, you know me. It was certainly meant to help Nicky (my contributions before the whatever that was). The reason this became a topic at all is because Nicky has, unfortunately in the past, gone after some items that were not good that were accompanied by false proof photographs - I was simply reminding him of this because of the title he gave the pic in this thread "Geezer Butler singing my album". I do not mind saying here this because there are entire threads about those so-called "proof photos" and Nicky. 

I do know you, Eric. And I have the highest regard for your passion and talents you generously share with others on this site. Including myself. Photo "proof", TPA certs, etc should never be a determining factor in making a purchasing decision. That's what this site does so well, help others learn what it the real deal and what is not.

No one's saying there's anything wrong with his autographs from what I've read. On the contrary, he appears to be a highly respected seller. This is about the photos.

Wasn't the original question by nicholas about authenticity?

The item is real, he can put whatever photos he wants...he doesnt have to conform to Autograph Live...

Tim and Eric agreed to let me delete their replies that were taking the discussion off-topic. 

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