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Dangerous autographs

Whose autographs do you think are nearly impossible to authenticate.

I have tried to study Clint Eastwood and find in near impossible to authenticate with more than a 75% probability. Elvis takes it to another level and 60% would be my best guess. So, many secretaries etc. I couldn't collect an autograph with suspect authenticity.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on August 17, 2018 at 6:15am

He's a notoriously difficult autograph, and his age does not help matters. I think people tend to dismiss the current state of his live shows (a number of once great reportedly pretty terrible in his 80s) since he isn't just a music legend but a bonafide American icon and historical figure.

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Permalink Reply by Abcd on August 16, 2018 at 11:06pm

I've got a lot of dedicated autographs in my collection. To be honest, I prefer these. There is much more detail to study and I find authentication a lot easier. No doubt, there are probably a few fake dedicated autos about, but they are in the minority.

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Permalink Reply by Abcd on August 17, 2018 at 12:18am

Getting back to UACC. There are dealers selling SPs that are merely a squiggle. No one on earth can authenticate a squiggle, not even the original signer. As someone said previously, UACC are a shadow of what they used to be.

I've seen obvious forgeries on ebay going for decent money. Nothing is being done about it. It's so easy to be dishonest and get away with it. Who is policing the autograph trade?

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Permalink Reply by Thurston bell on August 17, 2018 at 12:36am

It doesn't matter who sells squiggles, even if they have video footage of them signing because collectors much prefer perfect signatures for investment if there is suchba thing anymore.

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Permalink Reply by Abcd on August 17, 2018 at 12:43am

There are also celebrities whose signature is a squiggle. Mostly modern. I think they do it on purpose, as the know it will be on eBay before the end of the day.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on August 17, 2018 at 4:55am

yup. Pacino hardly even looks when he is signing in a crowd, thus a terrible squiggle. No way you can authenticate him. Got 2 what I would call decent ones over the years, the rest are sh*t and dont resemble any letters in the alphabet!

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Permalink Reply by Rich on August 17, 2018 at 6:19am

Exactly. A garbage autograph is a garbage autograph. That's kind of what this thread is about, not so much the alleged integrity of the sellers. So many purchases these days come down to "well that guy supposedly sells real stuff, so this stray mark must be okay." That brand of authentication doesn't do much for preserving the value as the years go by. If you can't authenticate a signature on the basis of the signature alone, to do really have to stop and consider how badly you want the autograph and what you're willing o pay for something you very well could have difficulty reselling.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on August 17, 2018 at 6:21am

I won't say much about GTV reality other than there are plenty of other sellers out there doing the same thing without the antics. His videos are just as much about self promotion as they are about provenance - probably more so.

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Permalink Reply by rob kunne on August 17, 2018 at 7:12am

i bought some items from gtv and on video i could see the exact item signed and that feels better than which coa on earth. some pacino's reaches the perfect 10...the stripes and other quick rounds he sign i don't like either.