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Ringo Starr Signed Another Day In The Life

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 24, 2022 at 4:10pm

You are very welcome. It's a big thing and very important. I imagine there are folks out there collecting on qo's and I fear for their collections...and wallets! The very words "Quick Opinion" don't really inspire much faith. Paying somone else to think with you in mind is an odd thing - especially as you and your collection are in no way a priority other than revenue and brand stability. Shareholder come first. Maybe you are 3rd or 4th if that.

It's sort of like hiring someone to play golf for you. You learn nothing apart from the cost.

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on May 24, 2022 at 4:01pm

PSA was denying quick opinions for the Elton Lockdown cd.. but if you sent it in, they pass them..

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 24, 2022 at 4:14pm

Yes. Who has time for that nonsense? It may not be easy and it may take years but learning this hobby is the fun. The research. Being able to rely on yourself. Much better and it helps sales when you know exactly what quality you are selling. No one will care about a qo, I know I don't.

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Permalink Reply by Collectorautos on May 24, 2022 at 4:17pm

So attaching a likely to pass qo means nothing to psa when you send it in ?

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Permalink Reply by Collectorautos on May 24, 2022 at 4:18pm

I’m asking because I want to encapsulate a book page and I know it’s real but I want to make psa get it’s real

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 24, 2022 at 4:22pm

They will do whatever they will do. Cutting up a signed book is rarely acceptable exept when condition is threatened etc.

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on May 24, 2022 at 4:37pm

The post about my Bernie Taupin book being cut needs to be stickied. This is why I wanted to be incredibly thorough with it (thank you Eric for contributing to that).. but aside from the point of a book being cut, PSA, I believe, is basing their quick opinion on how the autograph looks only. They can not tell other factors like if its a reprint, etc..its hard to tell pen pressure points and flow with just a picture as well. Odds are good that if they passed a quick opinion, they will pass a send in, but there's always a chance they won't. Someone else doing the research could see something the quick opinion missed. You could always post here for others opinions 1st. I understand why an encapsulation is sought after with certain collectors. Ive abandoned the idea these days but I have wanted it done in the past.

Permalink Reply by Collectorautos on May 24, 2022 at 4:46pm

What do you mean threatened

Permalink Reply by crazyrabbits23 on May 24, 2022 at 5:33pm

Yeah, going to the above, there's a whole range of reasons why cutting out an auto from a larger piece might be acceptable. Page damage, mold, severe foxing, water damage, etc.

I ended up cutting an autograph page out of a book a couple months back after discovering that Waterstones/Canada Post seemingly dropped it in a snowbank/puddle and functionally ruined the book. The autograph I was left with is a nice curiosity (particularly because it now has a red-stained pattern that fits in with the book it came from, lol), but it was either take the water-damaged page and dry it out (and bin the rest) or scuttle the whole book complete.

The Starr book is tied in with a specific limitation page and design -- if it was me, I wouldn't do anything to the book, and I wouldn't be looking at PSA to tell me something I already know unless there was a prevailing sense by this community/others that something was fishy with the sig to begin with.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 24, 2022 at 4:21pm

Not to me, otherwise it would be a lesser evaluation built on a 30 second qo but the same price and the same pitfalls.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 24, 2022 at 4:48pm

Jason,

With coins the argument for slabbing is even stronger regarding protection (but even those holders were demonstrated to be gas permeable as these surely are), but there are some qualities you just can't see through a slab. Or, as you say, a scan of an autograph. It's also nice to touch (the edges) of a coin and see that they are black (for an older silver Proof coin let's say), especially if you've just paid $1800 or whatever for it.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 24, 2022 at 4:53pm

Threatened - if the signature is in danger of being affected negatively by the degradation of the book, or some other problem like migrating foxing or reverse page toning. This would be necessary alteration to save the "threatened" autograph.