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Opinions on UACC Auctions linked through Autograph World??
Hello everyone,
I have been questioning a Chris Rea autograph that i purchased from one of the UACC auction dealers that is linked too from autographworld. Although this purchase is several years old, i thought i would put it up for opinions. At best i think it is very questionable. I originally found these sellers from the link to the UACC Auction at Autographworld. And afterwards bought numerous items from the sellers listed through autographworld. And several of these items i purchased, in my opinion are questionable. However, i also purchased an equal number that were no doubt good.
Upon checking back in their, I see several items throughout the auctions that are questionable to me. Their are several their that i didnt like just through clicking on a few. The first is a Bruce Springsteen that looks bad. The Van Halen item also looks very suspicious. The Axl Rose, Peter Buck, Cher, and the Paul McCartney also look questionable. But the items are mostly good in my opinion.
I am curious to know what others think of the auctions, Here is the link:
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Permalink Reply by Cogo on
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I was just planning to start my own hread about the Bob Dylan that they sell, I hope it's ok with you that I "ride along" on this thread instead... :-)
What' the opinion about this one?
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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on
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Hi Emsomaso, im with you 100 percent.
That Dylan is suspicious with a capital S, at least to me!!!
A boldly Dylan signed card like that would easily be sold at 450 dollars, or so i would think. I noticed it too and thought of putting it in my discussion but i figured id wait for others to opine on their stuff first. For the record, it also is certed by GAI, not that it matters one way or the other. My personal opinion, although i dont know Dylan well at all is that its not good. It will be interesting to see what others think.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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That Dylan isn't real in my opinion. Here are a couple genuine examples of the style the forger was trying to mimic:
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Im sure the UACC is a great organization with some great dealers, but i personally dont put any credence into the label of a UACC dealer/member anymore. Members i never did, but dealers i used too. I just see way way way too many fake items in the inventories of member dealers for me to give that lable of "dealer" any type of credit. I honestly just dont think the organization polices its dealers well at all. For the last few years i group AFTAL and UACC in the same category, good company ideas, but fail in the current world. Their just appears to be little allocation of resources to police members, especially the UACC dealers. If the system was working like it should, dealers with shotty items would be kicked out if they were repeated violators, and people like Manning and Adrian would have never been allowed to even by AFTAL members.
But im getting off point, bottom line the UACC needs to reevaluate its dealers. And that in my opinion the Van Halen above is bad.
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Permalink Reply by AC on
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If you complain to the UACC what they do these days is give the person you are complaining about your contact details. They really don't care as long as the dealers/member pays their yearly fees.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on
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Hi
I am not sure where you got this information, but it is simply not true. When we receive SPECIFIC complaints about an item a UACC Registered Dealer is selling, we have another expert look at the item and we contact the dealer if we think there is an issue.
What we do try to encourage is customers and dealers to work out any customer service issues between themselves first before calling the UACC into the issue.
No organization or dealer can assure perfection, but with the UACC Registered Dealer you should be dealing with someone who will correct mistakes if they occur.
On a positive note, the UACC will soon publish another issue of its magazine, the Pen & Quill and we are conducting an Autograph Authentication Course at the next Hollywood Show in Los Angeles, April 20-21.
Steve Zarelli
UACC Board of Directors
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Hi
It happened that where I got the information from ask around. I but a complaint in about an item that was 100% fake was told that it would NOT be looking into. Then I responded with more proof and then it was looked into. I received an email from the dealer. It was found out later the coa was fake as well.
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Permalink Reply by Rich on
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If I'm not mistaken, they're bit newer as far as the UACC registered dealers go. I was surprised that UACC let them into their RD mix when they were selling questionable material immediately.
When I first started buying autographs, I thought that any company that advertised nationally and offered a COA had to be good. After getting several questionable items, I refocused to purchase only from UACC registered dealers. The result was a mixed bag. While I did buy several great items (sometimes at fantastic prices), I did also purchase some pure garbage from some of the more notorious names in the hobby (who, fortunately, are no longer UACC RD's) and some questionable items that to this day I'm not sure about.
I don't pay much attention to that UACC RD list anymore.
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Permalink Reply by Michael T on
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The VH graphs are not authentic! How can a UACC RD offer this item for sale? Sad.
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I had a feeling they were bad, starting with the fact that looks to be Hagar and not Roth.
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Permalink Reply by John T. Smith on
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I have just come across these comments and feel compelled to respond.
First a bit on my background: I have been an avid collector of autographs since 1988 when I was a Film & TV Production major at UCLA with an apprenticeship at Paramount Studios collecting mostly in person. I began working as a full time dealer in 1999 and have been a UACC Registered Dealer since 2005.
When I first began collecting and trading back in 1988 forgeries were a rarity, but, unfortunately with the advent of the internet, as most users of this forum are clearly and painfully aware, the market has been flooded with a plethora of forged material. I do my very best to avoid these, now spending the majority of my time comparing items I purchase for resale as well as for my private collection with an extensive data base of known authentic exemplars I have amassed over the years in an effort to guard against acquiring forged material.
I will be the first to admit that I am not an expert on every autograph, the Van Halen is a good example. Firstly, there was an error in the description which should have read "Sammy Hagar" instead of "David Lee Roth", the listing has been removed pending further study.
My request to anyone who may read this and has a problem with anything that I have supplied or that I currently have on offer is to please contact me directly for a resolution. If I have made an error in judgment I appreciate it being brought to my attention, I guarantee prompt attention to any and all complaints or concerns.
Any autograph dealer or expert who claims to have never made a mistake is being less than honest, I do my very best to offer only original and authentic autographed material and to this end offer a written life time money back guarantee of authenticity with every autographed item I sell. This includes any autograph I may have collected in person (as has happened once, resulting in a full and prompt refund) .
John T. Smith
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