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u2 autographs

are these real early signatures or fake? Can anyone help?

Moderator note: Member Nigel Young rec'd information about his items being forgeries. He then removed all information on this thread pointing to those items, and posted them on eBay for sale. His seller name is bluecityboy1969. He has since been banned from the forum.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 8, 2014 at 8:26am

You received several opinions that it was fake from people who know what they're talking about but ignored them anyway. 129.99 GBP "but it now" for an item that could typically command four figures suggests you know it's bad and are going for the quick sale.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 8, 2014 at 8:26am

Don't know. Don't care.

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Permalink Reply by Bjarne Soderholm on January 8, 2014 at 6:41pm

The Smiths record that he was referring to was as bad as the U2. I would never have touched it. And this one he states is 100% Genuine!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SMITHS-MEAT-IS-MURDER-LP-FULLY-SIGNED-A...

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 8, 2014 at 8:33am

Did you even try to get a pro opinion on this? PSA, JSA, Roger Epperson? Any professional dealer with experience in U2? Did you post in on the U2 Eastlink fan page and ask for opinions from people with years of experience and an acute interest in U2 autographs? You making any effort here at all or just playing the "caveat emptor" card?

And because I don't give a rip about the Smiths means I know nothing about U2? Solid reasoning.

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on January 8, 2014 at 9:11am

That's really pathetic Nigel! No matter what you say about "that's just opinions", you know that these are fakes!

And when you still try to sell them = Thief!!!

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Permalink Reply by Null on January 8, 2014 at 9:21am

"I don't understand what makes anyone more expert than anyone else"

This is the funniest comment I have ever seen in my entire life.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 8, 2014 at 9:59am

I've banned Nigel and reopened the discussion. I don't have any of the posts he removed, nor the original photos as he's removed all the information.

I want to be absolutely sure though, are we sure the eBay seller with that item is Nigel (remember I can't see what he previously posted or said)

Thanks

Wascher

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Permalink Reply by Peter Lougheed on January 8, 2014 at 10:04am

Hi, Wascher. At the bottom of the eBay listing the seller's address is stated :

bluecityboy1969

Contact details

Nigel Young

28 Cooper Street

Manchester

Greater Manchester

M328NA

United Kingdom

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 8, 2014 at 10:04am

Thanks Rich for taking the screen shots of Nigels information clearly printed on eBay. I had not scanned the entire thread fully.

wascher

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Permalink Reply by Peter Lougheed on January 8, 2014 at 10:10am

This Beatles album he recently sold can't possibly be authentic.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-BEATLES-PLEASE-PLEASE-ME-LP-UK-MONO-SIG...

Edit: At the bottom of the listing he stated that it is likely not authentic.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 8, 2014 at 10:04am

Yes, if you look at my screen shots, his name is clearly depicted on the auction. For what it's worth, it would seem that he did the right thing and ended the listing. It would seem to be a closed case for now.

Look, I hate getting confrontational or even argumentative for any reason, but I found the way this played out to be borderline infuriating.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 8, 2014 at 10:17am

The fact that he took the time to remove all his posts in this thread - and photos - shows the intention to defraud someone. He won't be back. I have no tolerance for that at all.