J. Morrison signed cut piece

The following item came up for auction on ebay today to the tune of $5,000.- Not authentic in my opinion. Thoughts? Jack...

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Permalink Reply by Josh Board on April 19, 2016 at 12:08am

That autograph is so real. A few things:

You guys can't freak out when something is slightly different with the first letter. Think about this. Have you ever signed a birthday card for somebody, a check, or whatever...and the first letter looks way different than your normal signature. That's what happened here, and can happen often. To me, for the Morrison authentic stuff (and The Doors are my favorite band and I've seen a lot)....I look at that middle section....from the "o" to the end "o". They always look like that, even if they are sloppy because he was drunk.

I agree with Steve. Don't like checks, because you can't frame them nicely. I do remember a check signed by him and his common law wife Pamela, that I could've purchased for $2,500. I thought that was too much, but loved the idea of both their signatures on it!!!! I regret not buying it now.

Here's a question I have for you guys, though. It's a moot point now, because of Ray passing away, but....I always thought it would be cool to buy a Jim autograph, but on a program or something bigger...and then meet the other guys and get them to sign around that. Would you guys do that, or just keep it as jim?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on April 19, 2016 at 12:18am

Its nice to keep the graphs period if possible. I wouldn't worry about it. But when Pat sell me his door programme ill be stoked.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on April 19, 2016 at 12:23am

I often wonder, what Jim would consume in a week, I'm sure it would be an interesting diet of pills, hash, booze.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 19, 2016 at 10:30am

For the most part, I would also choose to keep it vintage. If it was the tour program, I might have asked them sign a different page or pages. It would be a full set on a single item without the recent signatures contrasting with Jim's signature.

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Permalink Reply by JackGotLucky on April 20, 2016 at 4:38pm

I don't want to be misunderstood in this analysis. There were a few unusual oddities in this example that aren't in any other of my 95 authentic exemplars that i have in my files. If i could get this authentic JM for $3000.-, i would buy it in a second because i do now believe it to be real.I was totally confident in the "J", the last portion of the "M" and the way the first "O" is started is correct and like i said the "ISON" portion is textbook Jim. I understand if you signed your name 100 times, each would be different with variations. Jim was kind of a unique signer because each letter was very consistent in all his real examples. The slant was consistent. Maybe once in a while one of the letters would not be the norm. In this example i noticed 4 unusual traits in one sig.

First, the unusual start to the "M" reminds me of this following forgery:Second,the first "R" travels severely upward from left to right when it is usually close to being more horizontal. Thirdly the second "R", to me is just way to sharp at the top when it is usually more loopy. This second "R" is the textbook mistake forgers make like the following exampleAnd lastly the spacing between the second "R" to the "I" which follows it has a little too much space between them. Maybe Jim just rushed it, maybe drunk, I don't know. But of all my authentic exemplars show none of these 4 odd traits that i pointed out. I hate cut pieces, but would still pick it up for maybe $3k, but would rather save up and pick up a signed copy of one of his signed published poetry books, if one ever comes up for sale hopefully in the neer future. Jack...

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 12, 2016 at 12:54pm

This signature is included in the next RR auction with an estimate of $12,000+. It's on the back of a pass to Marin Skateland in San Rafael. The lot includes two unsigned photos and a concert program. I wonder if it was consigned by the original owner or if someone purchased it outside of eBay.