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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2020 at 4:34am

I’m not sure what you mean. Can you post an example?

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on October 26, 2020 at 4:42am

I've not done this before so I personally do not have an example. Thus, the question.

For instance, I have two signed photos. One shows both characters. The second photo is not is good condition but has a nice signature. The background in both photos are similar. So, I am thinking about clipping the signature from the one photo and adding it into the second photo. Does this make sense?

It's not attempting to fool anybody but would make a nice presentation if done properly.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2020 at 4:57am

Thanks. Now I understand. It could be used to deceive someone later, and it may lower the value of the autograph even on the one not in good condition. Deceiving someone is my main concern, not by you. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2020 at 5:00am

I have seen it done, Joe. I’ve seen 3 Beatles photos combined into one, and the dealer selling it without saying so. 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on October 26, 2020 at 5:04am

I understand that. If it is done it should be clearly stated it was done. Obviously, it would not be worth as much as if it were originally signed together. But, it's not about deception. I could see where someone would be interested in the "Beatles case" owning the combined signatures even with the knowledge it was altered as long as it was done tastefully.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 26, 2020 at 4:39am

I too don't understand. I don't think I like it though.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on October 26, 2020 at 4:43am

Eric, why would you not recommend doing that as long as the item looks good?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 26, 2020 at 4:47am

It goes against the "buy it as you want it" notion I have. Cutting things and adding seems pastiche, and something that will have a smaller buying audience. I've never seen it done. Can you post both photographs?

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on October 26, 2020 at 4:55am

Eric, not everything can be bought as you want it. I'm asking if anyone has done this and, if possible, they were pleased with the result. I don't think it would be "pastiche" via the definition of the word. It is not imitating anything. Just possibly creating a more interesting piece.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 26, 2020 at 5:18am

Perhaps I used the wrong word - it used to mean grouping things (in the example motifs) not originally together at least concerning forged works of art. How would you add the cut signature?

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on October 26, 2020 at 5:32am

Ok. Here is an example. As you can see that "Hamill example" being added with the Prowse signed photo. It can be clearly seen and noticed. But it does make a nice presentation. Or should this not be considered?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 26, 2020 at 5:53am

I would not and I'd avoid anything like it. Just my opinion.All I see is the fact they were not signed together. I'd not know how to price such a thing either. How would a TPG respond to this alteration? To me both are damaged and value lowered. Again Joe, just my opinion.

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