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Permalink Reply by marc e on December 26, 2017 at 5:46pm

its possible some of its real .I'm notsure  

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on December 26, 2017 at 6:00pm

I would still return it if one sig is fake. Tyler and Perry are the important one's.

And they are reasonably cheap sigs to get. 2 items as a pkge deal didn't even sell for $200 on RR auctions recently. It may have sold last minute but I dont believe it did last I checked on my watch list

But I'm sure that guitar was much more than 200

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Permalink Reply by marc e on December 26, 2017 at 6:07pm

I agree ,there was a time tyler stopped signing .

I'm sure it was very expensive.

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Permalink Reply by Cory Clarkson on December 28, 2017 at 8:12am

no, they;re all bad

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Permalink Reply by David Hopper on December 26, 2017 at 6:11pm

Attached is a better photo of the COA

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on December 26, 2017 at 6:23pm

looks like they have covered themselves with printed jargon.

personally I'd fight them just in honor of the grandparents

Go getem tiger !!!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 27, 2017 at 9:35am

Thanks, David.

The COA's terms open with:

"The Art of Music will replace, at no charge, items which breach the warranty set out on the face of this certification if a Board of Examiners states in writing that it is his/her opinion that the item is found not to be as described."

COA doesn't make sense to me. It talks about a Board of Examiners, but doesn't say what kind. Then it refers to the board of examiners as he/she.

More than that, a Board of Examiners is typically a governing body of a professional organization, setting rules for the members and professionals in their state, territory or nationally. 

What I would do is start with an online opinion of authenticity from Roger Epperson. It's only $15. He's the leading music authenticator: www.rogerepperson.com

If his opinion is that it is not genuine, tell your grandparents, and have them call the credit card company they bought it through (if they used one) immediately. They'll tell them how to handle it.

Then they can call Art of Music, talk to the owner, and start working on getting a refund. They or you can contact me personally if they want to discuss. Drop me a private message here to arrange for contact information.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 27, 2017 at 10:09am

This is where I wound up reading that cert again yesterday. Circular craziness. Another remarkable sentence lies in the middle paragraph. I think we have seen this place mentioned here before but I don't recall the outcomes(s), only one or perhaps two threads in the past that were successful in exacting a refund?

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Permalink Reply by marc e on December 26, 2017 at 6:28pm

looks like all they have to do is give another signed guitar if this is proven fake

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on December 26, 2017 at 7:18pm

If they have one that could work.

Ask for plenty of close up clear photo's and post here b4 agreeing to anything

The Brad Whitford "might" be Legit but I dont think the rest are.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on December 26, 2017 at 8:15pm

the Kramer looked right .compare it to poster I put up

it just suxs that u have to second and triple guess when u pay a few grand,

I have in storage a les paul they signed for ,

I hve acces I think top a bunch of real signed guitars  from a friend of theres,  they are   in his storage unite from the 1990s we did a tone if them and put them away,there might be  some left.

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on December 26, 2017 at 8:52pm

Ah yes I think u are right John. The Kramer could be good too.

So it looks like the pick guard is probably legit but the others not

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