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Permalink Reply by JXE on March 31, 2013 at 2:59pm

I'm sorry but these last couple of posts are hilarious. Without a single shred of evidence people are actually considering that PSA is willing to risk their integrity on ITP certs by handing them out illegitimately to "good customers" and that PPC and PSA have collaborated to ruin both their reputations in a forgery ring... on items that look exactly like the items that came out of the signing in late 2012. 

I understand the importance of being skeptical and doing your homework in this hobby, but this has drifted into craziness. 

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on March 31, 2013 at 3:15pm

Nobody has said any of what you state we did. My interest is in the secrecy of when and where the ITP's take place. I'm talking beyond the Pacino. He is to easy to get in person anyway. I wouldn't buy one. There is another seller schu something or other with a grip of PSA ITP certs. PSA follow that guy around? Not all those celebrities have done private signings. Believe it if you want to.

I posted a pic with a PSA ITP cert from Presspass Collectibles. I dont believe for a second that PSA witnessed that signature. I believe what I believe....you believe what you believe. No harm in that.

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Steve on March 31, 2013 at 3:33pm

Well said Rick. I agree with you. Nobody is making accusations, just trying to get more information. I believe it is true that authentication companies give preferential treatment, give more leeway, etc., in assuming an item is good based on the volume of business they receive from a customer. I have first hand experience with the owner of Press Pass, as I said earlier, I have known him since he was 14 when he used to follow me around getting signatures, asking his mom if he could go on a trip with us to a show out of town, etc. If the seller of the item has nothing to hide, then why not reveal when and where an item was signed?

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on March 31, 2013 at 3:48pm

I know a couple folks that have dealt with him in Arizona. Neither have anything positive to say. They both have told me to be careful dealing with him. They say he is an opportunists who will jump at the chance to get over on you. Whether thats true or not who knows?

Much of his stuff looks good to me but there a some that I question if I had sent them in would they have been blessed off on. I dont think so.

 

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Permalink Reply by Steve on March 31, 2013 at 6:47pm

Rick, I can tell you, that he went with a friend of mine and I to a show in Denver back in 1996. Muhammad Ali, Sandy Koufax, and other big names were there. I was standing there went he overheard a conversation between the original owner of Mounted Memories and a potential customer. He stepped into the conversation and told the customer that he could get him better prices and tried to give him a business card. The guy from MM, can't remember his name, started screaming at Kyle (press pass), tried to grab him by the throat and started chasing him through the convention center. The police stepped in to calm things down. The owner of Mounted Memories told me that I need to let "my boy" know that what he did will get him killed by someone. He then told everyone about Kyle and he couldn't drum up and business after that, nobody would talk to him. He was still in high school then and was all about $$$, still is. Believe me, whatever you heard was most likely true.

Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on March 31, 2013 at 4:18pm

The PSA/DNA Certification Database indicates that the items were signed on February 20, 2013 in Beverly Hills, CA.  Other than that I am not aware of any other information that is available.  I agree with JXE.  The idea that this is some sort of elaborate conspiracy is doubtful.  Steve has also verified that PSA witnessed two signings.

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Permalink Reply by JPC3342 on March 31, 2013 at 4:34pm

You people are so dumb. The al pacinos from the private signing are 10000 percent authentic

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on March 31, 2013 at 4:37pm

I agree John.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on March 31, 2013 at 4:43pm

Never said they weren't.

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Permalink Reply by Steve on March 31, 2013 at 6:49pm

I never said they weren't real either. I just wanted some more information once I heard Press Pass was involved. Did they purchase a portion of the signing items, or are they claiming that they had the signing done for them.

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Permalink Reply by JPC3342 on March 31, 2013 at 4:41pm

If you ppl aren't physical there stop assuming what's real or fake unless the celebrity themselves say its not there signature. Every moron has there opinion

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on March 31, 2013 at 4:52pm

This doesn't even make sense. So all autographs are assumed real unless a celebrity says it isn't?  Whatever.

Only thing your right about is every moron has their opinion.

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