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Permalink Reply by Jordan brown on December 10, 2014 at 7:03am

Here is the certification

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Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on December 10, 2014 at 8:32am

I can't get why people continue using this "proof pic" lol. They only do it to scam people
I can't see the yellow everlast tag on the glove that these ones have

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Permalink Reply by Null on December 10, 2014 at 7:29am

I don't remember the story on "Stacks of Plaques" COA, I think they were legit at one point, but then people started copying their COA similar to Scoreboard. There are some on here familiar with Ali so I would definitely wait to hear from them on whether or not the signature is even authentic...

Personally, I would never trade an Upper Deck signed Jordan jersey for this, even if authentic. Perhaps it is just the photo quality, but the signature looks "sunk in" to the point of where in 20 years it may just be a little fuzzy scribble. 

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Permalink Reply by Jordan brown on December 10, 2014 at 7:37am

That is true......the sig does look sunk in, and I am worried about the longevity of it.....but the ring he drew is pretty sweet below the signature...just hoping its legit

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Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on December 10, 2014 at 8:29am

I never trust anyone using that proof pic
Stacks of plaques coas have been copied and are normally put with fake items. I've never seen Another ali with a boxing ring from stacks of plaques so that tells me it's not an authentic coa
This auto looks ok though at first glance but it's already blurred and will only get worse

As for trading it for a UDA MJ - this glove would Probably only get bid up to 350-400$ on ebay, if that

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on December 10, 2014 at 9:11am

Can't tell from the picture, but Stacks of Plaques was a good source of Ali items and they included a "proof" picture with every order I believe. I have never seen an Ali from Stacks of Plaques with an inscription/drawing though. 

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Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on December 10, 2014 at 9:30am

Agreed

Too many scammers have used that pic and coa on unauthentic items that's why it's always good to check

What do you make of that other coa? Looks like it says they witness's the signing as well as SOP.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on December 10, 2014 at 10:27am

Never heard of them. Only witness COAs I would have *some* trust in are ones that are notarized such as those HOF sheets. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on December 10, 2014 at 9:16am

Authenticity aside, the signature has bleeding, which is a major condition issue. Is this typical of boxing gloves? Not an area I pay much attention to...

In any case, assuming the Jordan does not have any issues, you are trading a prime piece for a dented can. I would think twice about it.

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Permalink Reply by Jordan brown on December 10, 2014 at 10:19am

I figured it was a fair trade bc if jsa or psa authenticated, should be a $800-$1000 piece bc of the cool, unique shadow box and ring insignia?

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Permalink Reply by Null on December 10, 2014 at 10:32am

I don't know what "unique shadow box" you are talking about but if it is a display box you are referring to you can get those at Michaels for $20. The ring insignia just looks like scribbled lips, I don't see anyone spending $800 for an item bleeding this bad. If you look at recent sales there are several Ali "signed" gloves that have sold for $200-$400. 

If you want to trade a no doubt 100% authentic Michael Jordan autographed jersey with a highly respected Upper Deck COA for a crappy lookin Ali glove that won't be legible in 10 years, accompanied with a couple printed "COAs" and a worthless proof photo then go for it. 

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Permalink Reply by Bradford on December 11, 2014 at 2:41pm

"scribbled lips" lol!

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