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Permalink Reply by Henry starlin on January 18, 2018 at 11:03am

Hello - I’ve posted this in person JC autograph before and if you put the images side by side you can see the similarities so IMO yours is probably legit. jC, as I’ve always read, was extremely good about autographing for fans. Ida, by the way, was the husband of Cliff Call who was a sound mixer at Warner Brothers. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 18, 2018 at 11:10am

She did employ secretaries and one at the time of the OP sig was quite good. JoeW has seen more and thecead.com shows the secs as well as genuine.

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Permalink Reply by BG Meadows on January 18, 2018 at 1:53pm

First, thank you for your response and the in-person Crawford signature for comparison. Second, thanks for allaying my fears I had gotten snookered (again). I bought the item based on the same info you read, that Joan signed all her own photos. It wasn't until after my purchase did I discover that Joan did, in fact, have a secretary sign items.

I've been reluctant to ask the forum to authenticate the piece because ignorance is bliss. But, I just had to get validation one way or the other.

Take care

Garrett Meadows

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 18, 2018 at 2:01pm

I would ask JoeW to take a look - I see some signs of secretarial. Look at the legibility - the ending flourish, that "f"...

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 18, 2018 at 2:22pm

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on January 18, 2018 at 5:50pm

Henry

Your example is not similar/samey... they are to a degree but notice the ends of Crawford and that is the main clue between authentic and secretarial.

The OP's is a secretarial IMO

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 18, 2018 at 11:32am

Henry's is authentic - I believe the OP has several observable differences, legibility aside. Look at the formation/construction of the last half of the last name./ Also the "o" in "Joan", the loops of the "ll's" in "Hello", the spacing of the "w" and etc.  

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on January 18, 2018 at 2:13pm

I am not confident this is a genuine signature. Leaning toward secretarial. IMO.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 18, 2018 at 2:25pm

That is where I am - secretarial. Sorry Garrett.

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Permalink Reply by BG Meadows on January 18, 2018 at 6:40pm

Hey, that goes with the territory. No problem. I can use the frame for something else. It's not the first time I've been snookered. I appreciate the honesty. 

I went back and found the so-called Certificate of Authenticity that came with the piece. LOL. Star memories.biz is no longer in business, if it was in business at all.  Just goes to show the value of Certificates of Authenticity, unless it's a highly reputable business.

take care

Garrett M

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