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Permalink Reply by mrxdoe on November 25, 2022 at 6:55pm

There's a reason why they're called fans, short for fanatic. 

But to the many of us who paid $600+ and may or may not have been a fan, Bob Dylan really did wrong by us. I wonder what he means by "make it right"

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on November 25, 2022 at 7:33pm

Agreed. Regardless of being fans, which makes it arguably worse to take advantage of, or even if it's people who don't give a crap about him and are simply buying to make a buck... selling anyone thousands of fake items for hundreds/thousands of dollars each is wrong, and I'd assume a major crime.

I really hope they do something to make good with the people who actually put out their money for this stuff, and had to deal with the lies and frustration from S&S... the wording on the apology was pretty open for interpretation. They said they're working with galleries and S&S to rectify the situation, so who knows if that means with them only... or if it includes ALL the people who were affected. 

I feel like they should give something to the people who bought them to make up for besides a fake signed book that p***** me off when I look at it... A refund and an apology is good, but doesn't mean much in the end. All that means is you're in the same spot as if you didnt buy it in the first place... but add a bunch of frustration and problems in exchange for a fake book you probably don't want. 

So hopefully they send a real signed photo, or at minimum a bookplate to put over the fake signatures to the people who bought the books, and a new real signed print to the people who bought those (and maybe a full or partial refund)... and even then the bad thing is many people will still look at those books and prints as being tainted/questionable in the future... but obviously not as big of a concern if you didn't pay $600 or $3000+ for them. 

Let's face it, the books and prints don't cost that much to produce. The book is the same as the normal version that sells for maybe $25-30, and the prints are paper and ink, they can't be insanely expensive to make... He might not like signing, but it wouldn't take that long to sign replacements for the autopen items. So it wouldn't cost that much, or be that hard to do to give out real signed items along with the refunds, and would make him look really good in the process... a win win for everyone involved... but I definitely won't hold my breath. Hopefully something good comes out of this mess though, at minimum maybe some of these people will think twice about using autopens/fake signatures from now on. I guess that can be considered a win if nothing else. 

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Permalink Reply by michelle on November 25, 2022 at 6:58pm

PFC collecttor makes great  ppoints.  I wwonder what we will find if we start  looking at his  signed works prior to 2019.  We would be in jail if we did anything similar to Bob and came up with his excuse

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Permalink Reply by Nichole on November 25, 2022 at 9:14pm

You’re misreading what he stated. He stated he had vertigo in 2019. He said it persisted throughout the pandemic. He said he had trouble signing during the pandemic. There was no pandemic in 2019. That was extra info that wasn’t needed.  The pandemic was march 2020. The drawn blank prints were already signed. Ask castle galleries when bob signed the drawn blank prints for 2020. What month…. Lol. It was before march. 

his vertigo has nothing to do with him signing. He just used it for sympathy and got it. Sweet baby Jesus I have mail de debarquement syndrome and live with a dizzy disorder every day of my life. Spare me the vertigo sob story. 

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Permalink Reply by Tony on November 25, 2022 at 7:31pm

It’s terrible. There are a few bashing him as they should but it’s few and far between . I’m helping with the bashing 

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on November 25, 2022 at 7:47pm

I'm sure most the people doing the ass kissing didn't put out hundreds or thousands of dollars for a fake item they were lied to about multiple times too.

I'm sure if they got scammed and lied to they'd be upset too, I doubt they'd be jumping to defend their scammers... but oh well, I guess if I was to be mad about idiots on social media, I'd have to be mad all the time. Lol

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 25, 2022 at 7:51pm

can you post a link to this thread? I do not use facebook outside of family stuff otherwise I woud

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 25, 2022 at 8:08pm

Ah thanks for that link, I meant it the other way though. I have facebook but restrict its use for only personal stuff, I should probably get another dummy account but cant be bothered. I'm wondering if someone can post our thread here as a comment on his facebook post. Its probably a stupid rule but I want to remain just a lurker on facebook lol

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on November 25, 2022 at 11:10pm

Oh sorry I misread that, I thought you just wanted a link posted here to keep track of what he said here as well, but I guess a screenshot makes more sense. Thats what I get for trying to keep up on everything when I'm half asleep. I'm the same way, I try my best to stay away from Facebook... but I was very tempted to leave some not too happy replies after reading some of those comments, but figured it's a lost cause if they're that obsessed that even major fraud to fellow fans doesn't turn them off. Figured my best bet is to just stop reading them before I got anymore annoyed.

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Permalink Reply by Nichole on November 25, 2022 at 9:16pm

I’m one of them 

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Permalink Reply by Nichole on November 25, 2022 at 9:06pm

100% nauseating 

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Permalink Reply by Nichole on November 25, 2022 at 10:28pm

oh god that was damage control. He didn’t think autopen was okay. 
Vertigo has nothing to do with him signing 

it was sympathy 

I do think he was scared during the pandemic. So signing was an issue. Yes. So instead of not making $&$ he autopen signed and stole money. 

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