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Permalink Reply by 2wxp9ggral2x7 on December 9, 2018 at 7:09am

What are you talking about?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 9, 2018 at 7:24am

What you showed is a known and common secretarial style and examples of it can be seen all over the internet. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 9, 2018 at 7:03am

Well, apart from the snippet of a gem I preserved above, it's all still on their page. Interesting behavior for someone collecting since 1971...

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 9, 2018 at 8:15am

The Sinatra signed photo is a secretarial and it doesn't matter who authenticated it. The sheet music may well be signed by Sinatra.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 9, 2018 at 9:04am

I have taken a longer look at this Sinatra signed music sheet. There are some similarities and some atypical characteristics to the signature. I hope others chime in. This is a piece I would not personally own. Here is an example of an authentic signature for comparison. Again, I am not an authenticator.

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Permalink Reply by 2wxp9ggral2x7 on December 9, 2018 at 9:11am

You do see differences a little bit.

Thank you.

There's so much falsification in the Frank Sinatra articles that if you don t know it 100%, it can be counterfeit.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 9, 2018 at 9:21am

There is no 100% certainty in authentication. When it comes to Sinatra I believe you can find good genuine examples. Just stay away from the borderline ones. There are many forgeries and many secretarial signatures. Play it safe.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 9, 2018 at 9:46am

Not long ago I was verifying a Sinatra autograph. I reviewed hundreds of Sinatra signatures. There was one thing I noticed. I could not find a single authentic example which included the salutation "Best Wishes". They were all either secretarial, stamped, or printed.

I'm still waiting for someone who can show me an example where he signed adding "Best Wishes".

With that said, the original signed photos which launched this discussion are secretarial. No doubt in my mind.

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Permalink Reply by 2wxp9ggral2x7 on December 9, 2018 at 9:50am

I mean this autograph I have doubts 

The article indicates that it is 1949

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 9, 2018 at 11:00am

Here is his 1944 Drivers Licence:

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 9, 2018 at 9:41am

These are not authentic autographs. They are printed cards.

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