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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on November 3, 2012 at 7:37pm

You were indeed right about that one.

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Permalink Reply by Xperttexpert on November 3, 2012 at 7:38pm

thanks

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on November 4, 2012 at 11:53am

Someone apparently had a lot of confidence in the authenticity of these signatures, as according to the auction results it sold for 8,500 British pounds (about $13,600). Any other opinions?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 4, 2012 at 12:13pm

It looks good to me. It looks like it was signed in fountain pen, perhaps one with a worn nib, and that could affect how people sign. What auction did it sell in?

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on November 4, 2012 at 12:16pm

It was sold by Gorringes Auctions on October 24th. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 4, 2012 at 3:20pm

Thanks. Gorringes is a good art, antiques and collectables auction house from what I've heard, and has a guarantee of authenticity. 

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on November 4, 2012 at 4:18pm

For comparison, here's a signed Twist and Shout EP from Frank Caiazzo's website. According to Frank, it was signed "within one month and a half from the time of release", which would also date the signatures to July/August 1963. These appear much more natural to me. Look at the difference between the two George signatures.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on November 4, 2012 at 4:33pm

I still don't like the signatures on the original post.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 4, 2012 at 4:46pm

You're probably right, Ballroom. I gave it latitude because it looks like it was signed with a rough fountain pen. But I'm not as comfortable with it as I was. Lennon has bothered me the most all along. I'm not convinced the record is bad, tho.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on November 4, 2012 at 4:47pm

Ballroom,

Those are the signature styles i am used to seeing. It is my opinion the original item doesnt look right. I most certainly could be wrong here b/c i dont have extensive Beatles knowledge, as pointed out by others. But the original looks very strange to me to be legit. Thus i hope Roger will add an opinion as to good or bad, as it is not used to what ive seen in authentic examples. However, if Steve thinks its real, then that is probably a good sign as to its authenticity as he tends to be right most of the time on Beatles.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 4, 2012 at 4:58pm

I sometimes give weird signatures too much benefit of the doubt. This is quite possibly the case here. 

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Permalink Reply by Xperttexpert on November 4, 2012 at 5:51pm

if it sold 8500.00 lbs. More than one person was bidding. and if they have that kind of cash, i'd pretty much bet they new what they were bidding on.

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