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Permalink Reply by Rich on March 12, 2017 at 5:49pm

What is the criteria - that is, what is the seller asking for? Sounds like he's trying to make you play games when he should be issuing a refund.

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Permalink Reply by Mupplvr on March 12, 2017 at 5:53pm

an opinion from a UACC dealer stating in writing that the piece is not authentic,

 hand signed on their letterhead

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Permalink Reply by Rich on March 12, 2017 at 6:36pm

Weird request, considering that those dealers are all over the place. I'm guessing the seller isn't particularly sharp.

Outside of a couple specialists, I don't think anyone really regards many of the UACC registered dealers as premier authenticators - if any. I'd start emailing a few and see whoever will do it cheapest. And I would avoid that seller in the future.

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Permalink Reply by Mupplvr on March 12, 2017 at 6:38pm

Believe me, I haven't dealt with him in years. I bought these in the late 90's.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 12, 2017 at 6:48pm

What were the terms of the guarantee when you bought the autographs?

And have you shown the autographs here?

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Permalink Reply by Mupplvr on March 12, 2017 at 6:53pm

They had a lifetime COA for each piece. I've shown one here. The other two are a Lucy and a Gleason. Both secretarial from what I see. (I wish this site and similar research would have been available when bought them all those years ago)

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 12, 2017 at 7:10pm

The terms of the guarantee are everything.

Antiquities, for instance, offers a lifetime guarantee of authenticity (at least they did), but they required you to use a forensic document examiner. One can easily cost $250 an hour and the examination often takes several hours for one autograph.

At least the dealer isn't asking for that.

But if two are clearly secretarial, your job may be easier and it may cost you less.

Is the dealer a UACC Registered Dealer? If so, that could make getting this handle easier and less expensive.

Is it a dealer you've heard mostly good things about, bad things about, a mix, or nothing about?

I know...lots of questions.

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Permalink Reply by Mupplvr on March 12, 2017 at 7:13pm

It's Piece of the Past :(

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 12, 2017 at 7:27pm

Mupplvr,

I'm going to pick this up at the top because discussion replies only nest about 5 deep.

Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on March 12, 2017 at 5:56pm

What is the genre of the autographs?

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Permalink Reply by Mupplvr on March 12, 2017 at 5:58pm

Vintage Entertainment

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 12, 2017 at 6:36pm

I recommend Tom Kramer of Golden Age Autographs: http://www.goldenageautographs.com/

Tom is a UACC Registered Dealer, and a highly respected expert in vintage entertainment autographs.

Whoever examines it, the authenticator is going to say that in their opinion (or a similar term) it is not authentic or is authentic.

Is that acceptable?

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