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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 4, 2022 at 12:03am

Poor forgery in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by X Karl on September 4, 2022 at 3:22am

Thanks Steve. After my own research, I also think this one is forgery. 

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Permalink Reply by Mikex on September 4, 2022 at 5:18am

Yes, I could do better than that.

E=Laughable fake!

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Permalink Reply by michelle on September 4, 2022 at 9:54am

unfortunately this is not genuine

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 4, 2022 at 12:20pm

X Karl, this is no laughing matter. Einstein's autograph like that with "E-mc2" would easily sell for USD 6-figures. How would you feel if you were in the same situation as your friend? Was this certified by GFA, Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 4, 2022 at 1:10pm

+100, and there be a line for bidding.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 4, 2022 at 1:26pm

+1

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Permalink Reply by X Karl on September 4, 2022 at 10:10pm

Yes, Steve. Anyone will feel terrible when he finds out he spent 3000 dollars on a forgery. But I think it will give him a lesson that before you purchase an autograph, you should do some research. The seller even lied to him, told him that this Einstein autograph was from Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen. That's insane. By the way, this autograph isn't certified by Anyone. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 4, 2022 at 1:15pm

Here. There are apparently 3 in existence. This one is in a letter sold for $1,200,000.

Note the E.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 4, 2022 at 1:28pm

Here are links to prices realized for Einstein autographs from University Archives and RR Auction. These are without the theory of relativity. University's prices are hammer prices before buyers premium. RR's include it.

https://auction.universityarchives.com/search-results?query=einstei...

https://www.rrauction.com/search/results/?navsearch=true&str=ei...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 4, 2022 at 3:25pm

Here are some coming up on LiveAuctioneers. A GFA Einstein picture autographed with E-mc2 is only up to $140! Hmmm...

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/search/?keyword=albert%20einstein&a...

These are the sold or passed Einsteins at LiveAuctioneers: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/search/?keyword=einstein&sort=-...

By the second page I found an Einstein with the Theory of Relativity equation like to the one in the OP, authenticated by GFA. It sold for $650. You have to log in to see prices realized.

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/133884049_einstein-signed-emc2...

Here's one on a signed photo, also certified by GFA: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/132744449_albert-einstein-sign...  It was passed on.

Here's another one like the other 2 on cards, GFA certified, that sold for $7,300: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/98060044_albert-einstein-signe...

Here's another one like the other cards with Einstein's autograph and theory of relativity, GFA certified, that sold for $15,000: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/113223856_albert-einstein-sign...

Another GFA-certified card like the others that sold for $2,750:  https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/124389732_albert-einstein-sign...

ANOTHER one GFA-certified that sold for $1,900, all from the same seller: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/106086758_albert-einstein-sign...

Another signed photo with Relativity, certified by GFA, by same seller again. Sold for $6,000:  https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/128400449_albert-einstein-sign...

And tons more after those.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 4, 2022 at 3:34pm

Framed too! They've "left" over $1,199,870 on the table. Monopoly Money of course. Wonder why...

Great research Steve. You've cast your point in bronze!

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