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Permalink Reply by Gio on March 6, 2016 at 2:45pm

They said I shouldn't worry that I have up to 180 days to file a dispute for non-reciept or for significantly not as described.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on March 6, 2016 at 2:28pm

I had a similar situation where I purchased an item after the auction ended, so it was outside of ebay, but I did use paypal.  it took a couple of weeks, if I recall correctly, but I did end up getting a refund thru Paypal.  if you can settle thru the seller first, that is the ideal situation.  I could not do that, so I had no choice.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 6, 2016 at 2:31pm

But in this case, Terrier, the seller said he had initiated a transfer to his checking account from PayPal so couldn't give Gio a refund until it's back. Gio just bought it today.

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Permalink Reply by Gio on March 6, 2016 at 2:32pm

You're right, its a long frustrating process with lots of steps so its better to just work it out with the seller. I just don't know how to prove that certificate is fake? I am sure paypal needs evidence. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 6, 2016 at 2:43pm

I hope it works out for you. BTW, was this supposed to be a signed photo or the autograph cut out of a photo?

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Permalink Reply by Gio on March 6, 2016 at 2:49pm

I thought it was strange that the PSA database said it was a "Cut" not a photo so I asked the seller and he said not to worry that PSA put that because it was a photo page taken out of a magazine.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on March 6, 2016 at 2:52pm

I hope you have no trouble getting your money back but if the seller is making excuses for why the PSA LOA is incorrect that warns me the seller is in on the con. That sounds warning bells to me. Be ready for a fight, IMO.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 6, 2016 at 2:56pm

Gio,

A couple of things:

1) PSA/DNA would absolutely not have said it was a cut autograph if it was a signed photo or magazine page.

2) Why would a seller asking $2,500 for a signed Elvis photo (or magazine page) with a PSA LOA take $1,000 for it? $2,500 would be a bargain.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on March 6, 2016 at 3:50pm

sounds like a totally dishonest seller.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on March 6, 2016 at 4:21pm

To prove the cert is fake, I'd contact PSA - they should be able to help (I would hope)

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on March 6, 2016 at 2:30pm

This discussion has brought to mind a certain PDA/DNA I purchased with the following letter. Would this be considered a pre-certification letter or what? It was issued in 2005 for a Heritage Auction.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 6, 2016 at 3:32pm

It's called an Auction LOA. PSA stopped offering them a long time ago. Pre-certification, which is what they use today, is different. You don't get an Auction LOA, but you have a certain amount of time to send it in for a full LOA OR COA. There's a short window, I believe, but I don't know how long it is. 

If PSA doesn't think it's genuine during full certification, the auction house issues a refund for the item, and I believe the fees. It happens from time to time.

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