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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on August 14, 2020 at 9:47am

Atypical.

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Permalink Reply by Dan Morris on August 14, 2020 at 2:40pm

Agree, this is bad, not sure if it's secretarial or just bad

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Permalink Reply by rob kunne on August 14, 2020 at 8:57pm

i did contact catawiki and psa-dna and curious about their answers...i will post these as soon they replied.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 14, 2020 at 9:08pm

This probably is the real one with PSA/DNA cert # AF74874

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Permalink Reply by rob kunne on August 14, 2020 at 9:17pm

psa answer will take 5 to 7 days but happy with your answer because the feeling i have of the one i posted was good (bad)... how do they make these forgery's? because when you don't know a thing about autographs it looks all legit.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 14, 2020 at 9:24pm

They look for entries in the PSA/DNA database in which there’s no image and produce fake stickers and cert cards with those cert numbers.

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Permalink Reply by Dan Morris on August 14, 2020 at 9:33pm

Great work from both of you to expose this. Shocking that this goes on as Rob says, those who know nothing buy based on a sticker and certificate and may never find out they are fake

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 14, 2020 at 9:41pm

Thanks, Dan. This issue has actually been discussed here previously. There were several Macca forgeries with fake PSA/DNA stickers and cert cards.

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Permalink Reply by Dan Morris on August 14, 2020 at 9:43pm

I saw that discussion a few days ago, seems with technology there is nothing forgers cannot do these days which is quite scary for collectors. It's great they are being exposed.

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Permalink Reply by rob kunne on August 14, 2020 at 9:39pm

i understand that but it still looks all legit...i did post a few months ago some photo's from a seller on ebay.com and he sold these as well. it's like a disease that started in the usa and now someone in spain is trying it to sell on catawiki and who know where this photo will end up?. what to think about the expert of catawiki?... is it just all about the money ?.

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Permalink Reply by Dan Morris on August 14, 2020 at 9:45pm

I agree, it looks legit as you say. It's all about the money, PSA etc don't usually have photos when you type in the cert number so creating a fake one means their fake certed items sell for many times more than uncerted items. I guess they keep doing them until they are stopped, if they ever get stopped.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 14, 2020 at 9:56pm

Some of these items were being pawned, and of course the loans weren’t repaid. The pawn shops would eventually try to sell the items and sometimes learn at that point that they’re fake and weren’t actually authenticated by PSA/DNA.

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