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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 3, 2017 at 9:06pm

I was sure he did since it was at the airport, but since his people have been known to take IP items out of sight to sign, and those often look off, I had to ask. 

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 3, 2017 at 9:54pm

I disagree. Keep in mind that the pre-signed Best Buy CD signatures were claimed to be secretarial, and now there's one for sale on Roger's site. Why can't the same mistake have been made with the book signatures? I believe it was. The book signatures contain a number of authentic traits spread across the examples we've seen. Apparently PSA/DNA agrees. 

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on May 4, 2017 at 6:16am

Of course the same mistake could have been made on the books.  But was it?

 No in my opinion. 

Mark

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 5, 2017 at 2:21pm

A Best Buy "Mean Old Man" CD signature (one of apparently 200 that were signed) was one of five signatures that essentially formed the basis of the TTM secretarial claim. It was posted on page 23 of the other JLL thread along with four other signatures that were claimed to be consistent with each other, but not with authentic examples. In addition, one of the signatures you received TTM after Judith was "called out" was deemed authentic, while another signature that is clearly in the same hand was deemed secretarial.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 5, 2017 at 4:00pm

Here are the Best Buy "Mean Old Man" signed CDs. The top one was shown as one of five examples of a JLL secretarial. The bottom one is currently for sale on Roger's website.

Here, the top one was deemed not authentic. The bottom one, which was received TTM after Judith was "called out", was deemed authentic. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2017 at 4:55pm

The top pair look clearly signed by the same person to me. I'm Not comfortable with either of them.

The bottom pair look to me like they were signed by different people. I think that JLL signed the bottom one.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 5, 2017 at 5:02pm

You've changed your mind then? You recently stated in the other thread that they appear to be signed by the same person, along with this one as well.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2017 at 5:25pm

I didn't say that I thought the inscriptions were signed by the same person?

Could be I changed my mind, tho.

One thing we do know is that there are a lot of questions about JLL autographs, so collectors should be ultra careful about what they buy.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 5, 2017 at 5:36pm

This is referring to the last three examples I posted in this thread (Great Balls of Fire, Sincerely Yours and To Mark - Keep Rockin'), plus a signed photo from Tracks that isn't posted in this thread.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Community Manager on April 22, 2017 at 3:09pm

The Tracks one at the bottom is compelling evidence to me that JLL didn't sign or inscribe any of the other 3, since the all seem to be in the same hand.

He only signed and inscribed the bottom one (from Tracks UK) on the left, plus the arrow. 

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 5, 2017 at 6:48pm

Here are some examples from the signed 2007 Jazz Festival prints. These are from three different numbered editions - 100, 300 and 1,200. I doubt that all 1,200 of the third edition were signed. I think these look similar to the Best Buy "Mean Old Man" CD signatures.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 5, 2017 at 6:32pm

Here's the one that was sold by Tracks UK

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2017 at 6:51pm

I think you're likely right. I don't think JLL wrote the inscription in the right corner, tho.

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