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Permalink Reply by mccawgomets on April 18, 2020 at 5:53am

Brother just got his.  Tell Tale dots make me highly suspicious of autopen use.  Although all 4 of his appear different. Any others for comparison? 

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Permalink Reply by Darryl Gundersen on April 18, 2020 at 6:28am

One machine for the M, one for the heart, and another for the rest of the signature and then they are placed in different spots. Has that ever been done before??

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Permalink Reply by Gooch on April 22, 2020 at 8:36am

This picture is a great example for study.

The bottom two second half of signatures are 100% the same - autopen - BUT with different M's. This must be new technology, or they autopen half the signature then hand sign the rest of it. The loop that goes up and then around is EXACT on the bottom two samples.  You cant deny that, or reproduce that by hand 100% exactly the same. But the M's are different. Interesting! 

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Permalink Reply by Travis Christenberry on April 18, 2020 at 7:46am

I don't understand the process they used but those are 100% autopen.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on April 23, 2020 at 6:33am

Hey Trav,  how many did you buy ? Do you remember mocking me about my opinion on the Mariah graphs.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 23, 2020 at 6:40am

What exactly was your opinion, Paul? I've seen nothing but trolling from you on these threads.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on April 23, 2020 at 6:49am

Thank you rich ,I'm glad you asked.

I purchased a signed advertised Mariah Carey Xmas album two years ago and recieved an authentic scribble on her cartoon movie. As I said it's nothing but going to be not worth it. Thanks troll.

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Permalink Reply by Marshall Slayton on April 22, 2020 at 8:06am

I'm not convinced these are autopen. The evidence offered up so far has been weak at best. Dots? Different colored markers? A machine for the M and one for the heart?

We have video of her signing inserts. Not all thousands of them, sure.  So far, we've seen a lot of similar looking signatures, but none that exactly match up if we were to lay them on top of each other. 

The evidence against the Ozzy CDs being authentic was incredibly overwhelming. This one doesn't have me yet. Either she signed them, it's secretarial, or they put in all the effort to autopen them with hundreds of variations. 

I'm simply not convinced.

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Permalink Reply by 5816nick on April 22, 2020 at 8:10am

I received my 4 CDs today None Signed at all! 

so nothing surprises me, maybe she signed some, maybe some are autopenned and some they just thought - Sod them we won’t send any! 

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Permalink Reply by Dani on April 22, 2020 at 8:16am

Well then you are a idiot the evidence is overwhelming  and you don’t know what you are talking about. 

Please explain to this entire forum why on the Green signed ones you have a blue dot on each stopping point of the signature? Why did Mariah Carey sign in green pen and then think “ why don’t I get a different colour pen and leave dots” that sounds like a super fun idea. 

Also you saw her sign less than 5 of these inserts on that video.  So please don’t use that as proof for her signing 5000 inserts it’s just laughable.

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Permalink Reply by Darryl Gundersen on April 22, 2020 at 8:23am

The m's on mine are identical. I don't know how this autopen machine works because there are variations but they are clearly not signed. The ones that WERE signed by her are very easy to spot.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 22, 2020 at 8:41am

Well, this is for sure: Something's off here. Kind of spoils the whole lot to a certain extent.

I'll see what I get in the next couple days, but I suspect it'll be headed straight to the trash. My expectations for this were about as low as they could be, and it was cheap. Still, throwing even a little bit of money away never feels great.

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