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I Bought both of these back before he retired. they look ok, but I wanted a opinion from fellow enthusiasts 

Included are the two that i own, you can tell can't you? the third pic is one i used for comparison. its been psa passed!

Thanks in advance for all the help guys!!!

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The ball I think is OK, don't like the picture though.

I agree with this.

The photo is certainly bad and the ball is highly suspect in my opinion.

I can't say with certainty on the ball, but it is atypical and I don't like the R at all. The "ivera" is also very strange. If it is bad, it is not a style I have seen before and a cut above the usual obvious fakes... but it is not sitting right with me.

I thought this too that's why I just said "OK" but I've seen authentic sloppy (for Rivera) signed baseballs from the past two-ish years. When did you buy this Ryan?

I bought them back in June from the MLB store. I saw a PSA accepted one with practically the same R from the signature. In my opinion a authentic signature. Atleaset for the ball. The reason I'm worried is because of the "i" in Mariano. the dot looks out of place, compared to no question pieces.

There's no way you got these at a MLB store.

The Ball yes, i got off Stiener sports ( srry for typo). Came with coa. the picture from some hobo on ebay.

So this ball has a Steiner hologram?

Woah completely misspoke. ok i didnt get this one from steiner. i got it from a ebay seller that "specializes in stiener authentic products". no COA no sticker no decal no nothing. only their word, and lifetime gurantee that its authentic. i do have a ball thats steiner with the little shiny decal i got confused. i do have a little 5x7 that gurantees it for life as authentic.

A seller that "specializes in Steiner authenticated products", but has no Steiner certed times? I'm confused. And "only their word" is worthless on eBay where scammers slang junk all day.

Is the ball certed or not? Regardless, there isn't ONE LETTER in the autograph I like. If something is super atypical/highly questionable I wouldn't even want it in my collection to begin with.

no cert at all, just that 5x7 that gurantees that life time warranty. I just checked my records. seller is theexceptionalstore (all one word) on ebay. their negative feedback is about customer service, not fakes and they do also sell JSA/PSA/Steiner stuff

So, unless you think the Steiner hologram has been tampered with, why ask about it?

Sorry, but it comes off as a "got ya," which most people don't appreciate.

Steiner or not, it is an atypical Rivera.

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