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Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on September 12, 2015 at 5:05am

I sent this loser a message on EBay with "ask seller a question about this item" and reported it to Ebay. I hate these fakers! Ugh.

They also put Michael's birthdate as the day he died in the listing. Idiot.

I wish you could email the buyer, but I don't see a way.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 12, 2015 at 6:10am

All we can do Sandy is keep reporting their eBay names on this forum and post the links (saving photos and adding them to the discussion because eventually the pics disappear).  Hopefully the buyers eventually run into this forum (we have had quite a few show up over Erick McKay Burgos' drawings--MJ forums also caught wind of him and linked to the forum on multiple sites).  I wish it was easier but its not. :(  I just keep pecking away at these guys though and trying to make it harder for them to peddle their garbage. 

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on September 21, 2015 at 10:23am

Another two up on ebay today from svern_us2015, firstly an index card signed 'All my love' and dated 1999

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Signed-Index-Card-Autograph...

and secondly a piece of lined paper signed in biro: (both 99c start)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-/171942165...

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 21, 2015 at 11:32am

I did some digging online on this seller, and his name is Joseph V Hendrix out of Gowanda NY .

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 21, 2015 at 11:45am

I also sent eBay a link to his 2014 CD signed after MJ died in 2009.  Hopefully they'll remove this scammer.

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Permalink Reply by John Kimball on September 21, 2015 at 12:02pm

any opinions on eBay item number : 252071590492 ?

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on September 28, 2015 at 1:49am

I guess someone was busy over the weekend   ....

1. Wallet:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Autograph-Original-Signed-W...

2. Tee shirt from a local jumble sale?  He does say:

'I do not know if he wore this or not it does look like what he wore on stage a v neck shirt but it was signed in 2002 very rare' 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Signed-T-shirt-Very-Rare-/1...

3. Signed photo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Signed-Photo-4-By-6-RARE-/1...

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 28, 2015 at 4:44am

Obtained the wallet in person, a few years back.  A few?  Does he know its been six years now since he died?  He "prolly" got the wallet a few years back but MJ been gone longer than a few years now.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on November 8, 2015 at 10:17pm

The wallet insert is back up for sale under jous-2wniq1j :  http://www.ebay.com/itm/291611032765  Starting bid 9.99 or buy it now 90.00

It had previously SOLD under his svern_us2015 account for 102.50 on Oct 3, 2015

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Autograph-Original-Signed-W...

We have a new one signed with Emmanuel Lewis  http://www.ebay.com/itm/171992025911 under the svern_us2015 account

The last one he had was this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-AUTOGRAPH-ORIGINAL-PHOTO-SI... 

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on October 6, 2015 at 10:20am

Another offering from svern_us2015 today. 

Very like the 'Burn All Tabloids' card on p1 of this thread, but now with added date and no hologram.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Signed-Index-Card-Rare-/171...

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Permalink Reply by Albert on October 6, 2015 at 2:22pm

Hi Lizzie, I've been wondering for a while, how many genuine Michael sketches or drawings would you suppose exist in private hands? How many genuine ones are up for purchase in a given month or year?

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on October 6, 2015 at 3:38pm

I think that is difficult to guess, but the numbers 'in circulation' seem not to be large.  I imagine that the originals of MJ drawings used in album booklets will mostly be in the possession of the Estate, as will any other drawings that Michael kept for himself.  

Looking at the possible origins of genuine MJ sketches 'in the marketplace', there were some in storage (in the 'Vaccaro' warehouse collection), of which some papers / drawings were sold in 2007.  There were some in private collections eg David Gest (as sold at Juliens in June 09).  Occasionally drawings surface from eg old schoolfriends.   I'm sure that Michael's family must still have some.  Michael himself said that he stopped drawing because his drawings disappeared  (ie were taken by maybe staff, colleagues, friends or relatives).  There have probably been more 'doodles' than drawings on the open market.  

Formally, there is the collection created with Mr Livingston Strong, of which we have already seen a few in the media and given to the LA children's hospital.  Some of these appear to be in the hands of celebrities.(eg Elton John and others have been photographed holding large drawings.  Whether these are originals or prints we don't know.  (There will be originals somewhere, but I don't know if they, or prints, were gifted to celebrities).  Occasionally originals or prints from these have been offered by the Jackson family for sale at charity auctions. 

 I very much hope that most of those who still have genuine 'informal' drawings will keep them, and hand them down to their children/ grandchildren/ other relatives.  I believe that the Livingstone- Strong collection was created in order to raise money eg to build a hospital, (by selling prints), so their purpose was always 'charitable/commercial', rather than sentimental.  

As to 'how much genuine MJ art is available in any period of time', I would say that if someone has a genuine 'informal' drawing, I think that they would need a very pressing reason to sell at the moment, unless they have 'cast iron' provenance, as the prices for MJ signed items of unknown or unverifiable provenance seem to be dropping due to the numbers of fakes on the market. We may have already seen the largest numbers of genuine informal drawings come on to the market between 2007 and 2009-10, partly because of the Vaccaro sale and partly because prices are high when a celebrity dies, so sellers capitalise on their investments.  Whether prices for informal drawings will ever rise as high again is anyone's guess.

I'm sure that any genuine 'Jackson/Strong' art will be sold for high prices, as the provenance is verifiable, and the drawings are large and decorative.

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