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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 10, 2024 at 2:11pm

No to all.  I'd never trust that certificate either. The hat in that photo is not the signed hat you showed IMO - I think it is a slowly drawn copy. The hat in the photo appears to be signed with a capital "E" in "LOVE" and  some other differences such as the start of the"L".

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Permalink Reply by Austin Bucolo on March 10, 2024 at 2:24pm

What do you think about the signed dangerous cd and the first hat shown the one that just has his signature? 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 10, 2024 at 2:30pm

They look like poor simulations to me. How much is being asked for these things?

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Permalink Reply by Austin Bucolo on March 10, 2024 at 2:53pm

The hat with just his signatures was listed at a bid for  200$

the dangerous cd is at a bid for 2,400 no one put a bid on it 

the hat with love Michael Jackson was at at a bid for 500

the Billie Jean Live Photo was put on a bid for 50

the thriller single vinyl was listed for a 500$ bid 

By the way are you saying they are all fake? 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 10, 2024 at 3:03pm

YES, those start prices of $50, $200 and $500 are tremendous red flags. The Dangerous  - what makes you think that is authentic? Do you have an Exemplar that looks like that?

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Permalink Reply by Austin Bucolo on March 10, 2024 at 3:05pm

This one does look similar 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 10, 2024 at 3:18pm

That does not resemble the signature on Dangerous at all. As Eddy pointed out, and as has been mentioned in your previous posts, this is not a signature you are likely to find in the wild raw and cheap. I believe I already linked you to auction results so you could get an idea.  What do you expect to spend on an authentic Jackson?

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Permalink Reply by Austin Bucolo on March 10, 2024 at 3:41pm

I expect to spend 750-1250 on a Michael Jackson signature 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 10, 2024 at 3:48pm

This was $1553 at RR 6 months ago:

Permalink Reply by Eddy on March 10, 2024 at 3:07pm

Hi Austin -

I am not knowledgeable of Michael Jackson at all but I do have a thought. 

He seems to be one of those autographs that it would probably be unlikely to find out there for sale under the radar.  Maybe look for items that have been examined and passed already by one of the reputable authenticators (eg. Roger Epperson, PSA, Beckett, etc.).?  The reason I say that is that I've noticed that even the most experienced dealers often use these services before offering material like Jackson and other artists who are often forged.  

Here's an example of what I mean.  This is one of the most experienced dealers out there who is recognized by most in the hobby as one of the best in the business.  And yet he uses a third party authenticator to add an extra layer of legitimacy when he handles someone like Jackson:

https://www.andrusierautographs.com/product/jackson-michael-1958-2009/

Again, just a thought.  It might mean paying more but also might mean having more assurance that you will be acquiring something that's good.

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Permalink Reply by Kai Jones on March 10, 2024 at 3:39pm

No disrespect to Roger, but I have serious reservations about that one you posted, Eddy. Ive never seen MJ sign so “flowery”

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on March 10, 2024 at 3:44pm

Could well be.  Like I said, I don't know MJ signatures at all.   Even more making the point though as this is a top dealer as well as a top authenticator who have both looked at it!   

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