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now Im told could be 1982 or 1983 as the collector is now 72 and a Pot head back then. bad memory

Don't need to nail down the year, JUST NEED AUTHENTIC OR NOT OPIONIONS.

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I was looking at the differences in the creation of of the "onna" - those "n's" are of very different form from what Joe posted and what I mentioned. I saw some slight hesitation and also this pen lift which I don't know if everyone noticed:

There is no way this is authentic.

Someone posted a similar forgery one a ways back.

Those “o’s” are dead on....probably not hard.

It’s a mess everywhere else...

I’d be interested in seeing Justin Steffman or someone that can measure spacing/slant to see how close those o’s are.

3 people here have actually answered Vince's question in saying it's NOT authentic.

So the conclusion between the 2 threads would be for Vince to stay clear of this sig.

Now I have a question pertaining to Madonna's signature which I have wondered for some time. Her sig obviously reads "love Madonna". But my question is, what is she doing in the middle portion  between love and Madonna. Is that funky part supposed to be the "M"? To be honest it reads like "love//donna". Do you know what I mean? Not sure if I'm explaining myself properly.

Ive seen where she will write “Love” in a way where that word looks like an M itself.

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Maybe this a better example to view- you see the high point of the l and right  before “adonna” has a high point it kind of looks like “Love” is contained within the “M”

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Thanks Xwiesy. I kinda get it now. It's a very creative signature and I like that. I might have to get one some day. 

I like both those sigs and photos you posted

I have to admit it took me more than a moment to get my eyes down far enough to see the sig on the 2nd photo haha

Haha, yes...

There is also the shaky "e" in "love" right before the start of the "M", and a second pen lift before the "adonna"...and a lot of ink where I would expect a fine take off with decreasing ink - at the very last:

I have a headache ,can we end the 2 threads all ready its fake

no matter when it stated it was  signed at 1979 which we proved wasn't and hopefully now exposed when madona started signing stuff as an artist or now the date  82 or 83 .next week it will be 87 it was signed in.we beat a dead horse

okay back to ur regular programing

LMFAO !!

I feel your pain john and also vote to end this crapola

I was trying to provide Vince with something to look at, besides posturing and other baggage which he has not asked for. 

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