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While we're on the subject of George, how about this oddity currently on eBay with a start price of $1,500.
If it were genuine it would be great but I have pretty major doubts. It seems to be trying a bit too hard and there some very odd flowery bits. Parts of the inscription actually look more like Ringo's work (e.g. the "To"). Another big problem is that George was probably not on the ship on the menu date (2 September 1971). According to a blog I saw (that may be wrong of course) he boarded the ship on 22 September. If the dates are right, I hardly think George would have been asked to sign a three week old menu.
Thoughts?
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I agree with Beatleworld, and was thinking the same thing. the signature is a little "flowery" but has some positives, but the inscription is in another hand.
Not being the world's best "out of the box" thinker, the thought never occurred to me that the inscription could be by someone else. That would certainly account for the very odd "To".
I wouldn't really fancy the idea of a patchwork piece myself. Perhaps the person who obtained the autograph wanted to give it to a loved one and personlised it with all good intentions but obviously it doesn't help desirability at all.
I can't tell you the number of Beatles autographs I've seen over a period of maybe 10 years where some one has inscribed,"To Pug Called Eva,...Happy Birthday from,"...etc.And it's written in someone's else's hand...that would
be my guess!!
BUT maybe 'Joan' needed to have already written the dedication waiting for G H to sign. I was encouraging some elderly folk in a home to recall earlier happier times and one elderly gentleman in the care home was telling me that he used to work as a steward on one of the crusie ships in 1960s and 1970s. He told me that it was a risky business asking any of the stars on the ships for an autograph or a photo as they could get you sacked for approaching them if they were in an uppity mood so in his experience it was always nerve wracking experince asking for an autograph;- I have no reason to doubt his story and if it is true 'Joan' would have needed to have planned her moment with precision and already written the inscription .
These are just my thoughts and memories of the conversation I had with the elderly chap who came alive when he remembered his time on the cruise ship , - but the main thing imho is to focus on the g h sig itself and not what its written on to determine whether the g h sig is authentic
The date will be always be a cloud over the signature unless he was aboard 8/2/71. It just makes no sense.
You know people...we're starting to over think" the Harrison autograph. People do tend to forget things...they get the dates wrong...sometimes the story doesn't jive....the important thing is....is the signature legit or not?
You'd be surprised my friend....
I would certainly prefer the signature on the appropriate menu. Have any of these dates been established? A menu from a previous crossing is very unusual according to the folks I spoke to know who know crew service operations/habits.
Ah,....but what do they know about Beatles autographs???
Exactly, they are not swayed at all. Celebrities on board constantly - Burton, Taylor. etc.
To your question - you need not know anything about the signing habits of the Fab Four to know Cunard dining room procedures, anymore than you need a calendar to see the discrepancy in dates.
I think we all would prefer to see the signature on the appropriate menu instead of one from a previous crossing in the other direction.
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To me such little things count. For example, it is "jibe" not "jive"?
Such an early date, before he was aboard, will always raise the obvious question - who needs it?
A three-week outdated menu is not a little thing to me