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PSA JSA fakes??

PSA or JSA fake objects, how do you understand that a signature authenticated by them is not true? Maybe check on their site the serial number that the seller gave you and it is authentic, if it were false it should not result in the site database as an authentic certificate, no?

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Permalink Reply by wascher on April 5, 2018 at 2:37pm

You can check but they didn't always do photos. 

Second, one should get and updated opinion if the COA is old.... because opinions can change.  By that I mean that some forgers/forgeries can come to light after the forger gets greedy and creates more than just a few.  The authenticators get more education every month.  I think I'd go with every 5 yrs or so someone should update their certs, maybe more.  Anyone else have differing opinions?  

Permalink Reply by goodcat on April 5, 2018 at 3:57pm

It reads like more than one question.

First, to understand that a signature is "not true" by them, one needs to prove it. And that takes someone with an experienced/knowledgeable eye to go against the TPA opinion.

Second, PSA, JSA or other TPA would have to admit to wrongful identification and hopefully remove it from their data base. I think they should post that they made a mistake and deemed it Fake IMO.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on April 5, 2018 at 4:43pm

good luck with that . steve grad is god.lol

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on April 5, 2018 at 5:09pm

Steve Grad not even a top ten overall authenticator. He sticks his name and takes credit for other people's work.

He just got into the authentication game at the early stage and on the heels of major forgery busts. Luckily so for him. So many people have collected nothing but PSA stickers for so long that they have to defend him to the end. If not they'd have to admit there are a bunch of forgeries in their collections. They would rather just pretend they are all authentic.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 5, 2018 at 6:34pm

If I can't see for myself it is genuine and why...I don't buy. 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 5, 2018 at 9:11pm

I don't give a damn what the TPG says. 1/3 to 2/3 of the Jackie Gleason "exemplars" on the "facts" pages are just not good.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 7, 2018 at 9:19pm

Secretarial???? Yeah. 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 7, 2018 at 9:26pm

Another...yes, secretarial...all PSA exemplars...!

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 7, 2018 at 9:29pm

And one more...secretarial as genuine...PSA blunder In My Opinion...

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 7, 2018 at 9:32pm

And the real thing...

Click for full images:

1953:

1962:

Permalink Reply by goodcat on April 5, 2018 at 9:36pm

HAHAHA john shaw

cheeky sarcastic bugger

good one matey

Permalink Reply by goodcat on April 7, 2018 at 9:48pm

jeepers Eric

well now I know never to buy a Gleason from PSA/DNA

we sure are seeing a lot of TPA blunders these days. Keep it up... I like it. "Just the facts Maam" .... Im sure you'll figure out this famous line hehe

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