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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 12, 2015 at 7:54pm

I've made some comparison images of Don Henley autographs on www.rockandrollcollection.com. 

There were 14 autographs of the type that Mike T and a few others of us are concerned about that were large and clear enough to use in the comparison. There were 45 autographs that are not of that type that were large and clear enough to use. There are 80+ Henley autographs in total on the site and there's a chance I missed a few.

I compiled the autographs in 3 large images, 1400 pixels wide, so be sure to enlarge them, at least for a good look at the smaller autographs. Each image has the same 14 suspect autographs in the odd rows so you can compare them with the 45 other ones over the three images.

There's a fourth, smaller comparison image with four autographs that have a number of the characteristics of the ones I'm concerned about but not enough to put in that category. 

Here they are, in four replies:

rockandrollcollection.com

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 12, 2015 at 7:54pm

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 12, 2015 at 7:55pm

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 12, 2015 at 7:55pm

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 12, 2015 at 7:56pm

The even rows are the ones I'm not sure about.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 25, 2015 at 8:06pm

Nothing I'm aware of at this time. The discussion is surprisingly quiet. No discussion at all on the Henley comparisons posted.

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Permalink Reply by Steven Jackson on December 25, 2015 at 9:44pm

Hey Steve

How long would you feel is appropriate before re messaging Stephen on this subject?  He told me he would get back to me 20 days ago but with the holidays and him trying to update his site ect. Want to find the right balance between giving him enough time and not letting to much pass if that makes sense.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 26, 2015 at 11:08am

Hi Steven,

I would message him back whenever you want to.

Last I heard from Roger, he felt that all of Stephen's Eagles autographs that he had seen were genuine. That was two weeks+ ago. Based on some of the Don Henley autographs alone (I haven't seriously studied the other names), this is one of the rare times that I disagree with him.

That said, I have nowhere near the knowledge Roger has on Eagles autographs. 

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Permalink Reply by Peter C. on December 26, 2015 at 2:13am

I have to reply to Stephen´s article in Queen section:
"The following story has been mocked and heckled and has even put into print that “there is no way it could be true”, and “if it sounds too good to be true…” and other groundless allegations and insinuations that it could never have happened."

I was the one who wrote somewhere in the discussion "if it sounds too good to be true..." - that´s why I need to react to this.

I have never doubted that Stephen met Brian and Roger exactly as he described. I have never doubted that Stephen asked Brian about chances to obtain Freddie´s autographs. So actually I have never doubted the "story" part of these items. I just said that the story has no relevance to authenticity of the items (which is doubtful in case of those three FM items as was mentined here and honestly there is absolutely NO DOUBT that added fully signed promo picture which arrived in the parcel with rest of the items is fanclub fake). Main issue is Stephen completely ignored the reasons I mentioned here when I said that the story seems too good to be true. Freddie was at the final stages of his fight with his illness. Isnt is quite understandable that he Brian would simply got back to England and said to someone in his crew to finish it off instead of bothering Freddie with such a useless problem (as signing autographs for dying man obviously is)? There was no bad intention towards Stephen in that action - they send him obvious secretarial fake promopicture and someone in crew signed the pictures instead of Freddie.... It´s the same as the reason why QIFC was sending fake autographs to his fans - in 80s or early 90s, there was almost no way how to verify authenticity of received items - so fans were happy and band wasnt flooded by requests - win/win scenario. Also no disrespect towards Stephen now, but please keep on mind Brian´s priorities..... who was more important for him? Couple of fans who he met somewhere or his dying band colleague and friend? That´s why I said that this story is "too good to be true" - it´s quite understandable and obvious they didnt want to bother seriously sick Freddie with such a useless unimportant thing as autographs are - and found other solution to making fan happy... Brian and Roger lied for years about Freddie´s condition to protect him, this can be easily included as part of it! And by the way - it´s not groundless - the promopicture with blue ballpoint signatures is 100% fake and the rest is.... quite suspicious! There must be thousands of people who have fake fanclub autographs who live in honest confidence that their items are authentic, but they are not...

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Permalink Reply by Fran on January 8, 2016 at 3:40pm

I fully agree. But this time it was not the fan club... it was someone much closer to Freddie who did those signatures...

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on January 8, 2016 at 4:02pm

That's true. Fran, are you a member of my Queen autograph group on facebook? We just discussed this

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Permalink Reply by Fran on January 9, 2016 at 2:48am

No I'm not. But 2 friends of mine are, and they ask me sometimes about things posted on facebook... Maybe your group, as they talk about Calò and his opinions. I don't have facebook myself. I used to but it was boring and I've never written again since then...

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