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Roger Waters signature study

OK, so for those who want to know how to spot a real Roger Waters from a fame one continue reading and observe. For those who don't want to except it, I'm sorry, I can't please everyone.

Real Roger's, and I focused on some from the last tour, have a certain flair to them. An essence that only he can do. There is this subtle jittery aspect to the "oger" in Roger that is unmistakeable for those who have actually got this guy in person. There is noticeable relationship in the formation that only he, Roger Waters, the signer, can do. These things forgers can't master and guys like me and several others on this site can spot them a mile away. It's difficult to put into words what to look for but the first place I'd look is the "og" and make sure they are kinks awkward looking, not too perfect, or the same size. The rest si subtle and I invite you check out the image.

I understand a well known authenticator has deemed the WYWH CD jacket in my fake column as real. I'm sorry but he is wrong. I don't think XXX has engulfed himself as deep as I have in Pink Floyd and I invite him to take a look at my graphic I compiled to see the differences.

Sometimes what makes me personally good at spotting fakes and knowing who signs, what they sign, where they signed and roughly how many they signed and sometimes who they signed for. The autograph community is small enough that if I don't know the guys in the next city one of my friends does. We tend to know who is honest and who isn't. This helps me not only see the stuff I get signed, as well as the other stuff signed around me and then also I, or we, or someone gets texts with images from other cities or info on the signing habits. And being in the trenches is the only real way to become an expert at authenticating autographs in my field (mostly music). I have been at this since the early 90's and it's a nasty greedy business and I love to help people in need.

Most of the fake Waters are passed by PSA and JSA, suprise suprise. Most come from the sellers that offer real ones as well. This is a classic case of a group of autograph hounds getting as many as they can get then just forging what they didn't get signed. This is terribly common with east coast guys, mid west, San Fran and LA. Basically the bog time markets.

Anyway, hope this helps some folks.

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Permalink Reply by Jason Charnick on March 4, 2015 at 12:33am
this is fantastic info! thanks as always, N, this is very much appreciated, and I see just what you mean!
Permalink Reply by Peter C. on March 4, 2015 at 2:01am

Great job!

Permalink Reply by Bjarne Soderholm on March 4, 2015 at 3:20am

Great Job! When you see these, you can really see the difference between the real and the fake. I'm pretty sure the forgers will take notes, so soon we will see even better forgeries.

Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on March 4, 2015 at 11:13am

lol, true. Here is one that is a really good forgery. All this guy's stuff is fake but he's talented. I noticed this one while compiling these and the firm bright spots at the ends of the strokes means he started and stoped every stroke trying to get it perfect, there is not flow at all.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROGER-WATERS-ORIGINAL-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-11...

otherwise scary good

Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on March 4, 2015 at 2:44pm

Thanks that view gave me a nice view of Milla jovovich!

Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on March 4, 2015 at 4:46pm

lol

Permalink Reply by Bjarne Soderholm on March 4, 2015 at 6:25pm

His Roger Waters is better than his Jon Bon Jovi.

Permalink Reply by Mike T on March 4, 2015 at 10:49am

Good stuff

Permalink Reply by michelle on March 5, 2015 at 9:38pm

thanks, really informative 

Permalink Reply by Keith Smith on March 6, 2015 at 10:26am

This is awesome! I have not been on here for a while and just checking this out. Looks like you have uncovered a ton of bad stuff from these companies that I am sure have sold for big $$$ over the years. No telling how many bad one's like this they have pasted their stickers on. Next stop the shredder!

Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on March 6, 2015 at 3:03pm

hundreds over the last couple years from the same couple sellers.

Permalink Reply by Sports n Stuff on March 9, 2015 at 11:40pm
Yeah as the guy posted fake info about himself etc because he didnt want his "boss/employer" googling him! Take it with a grain of salt! As I've stated and others...many things go into an autograph...sitting down at a signing, getting pumped into, thumb print, 80 hounds circled around the person...I could go on!

But once a liar, always a liar! And not Keith smart!

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