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Permalink Reply by Paul on October 20, 2016 at 8:00pm

History trumps the grading system when it comes to the Beatles.
Grade your sports.

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Permalink Reply by Jared on October 20, 2016 at 8:04pm

Paul, "grade your sports" just is so off-base to me. The Eagles, Queen, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Clapton ect experience a lot of quality issues. If you had a graded 10 Queen album by PSA/DNA or, for god sakes, a Led Zeppelin graded 10 album, I would pay an insane amount for that quality if it was on a relevant title. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 20, 2016 at 8:04pm

I just don't think the myriad and unique qualities inherent in every autograph can be summed up effectively with a 1-10 number. Eye appeal and prices realized much more practical.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on October 20, 2016 at 8:06pm

If as collectors we need to follow a number system there is something wrong, when it comes to music.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on October 20, 2016 at 8:07pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paul-Mccartney-The-Beatles-Signed-Album-Cov...

If this is a 10, well then its in the eyes of the beholder!

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 20, 2016 at 8:13pm

With regard to Paul's "10 McCartney" above:

GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint. A PSA Gem Mint 10 autograph is a virtually perfect autograph. Attributes include bold writing with the absence of skipping or retracing by the original signer or otherwise. In addition, the autograph must be strong and clear for that particular signer. For example, if a genuine Mickey Mantle autograph is bold but seems rushed or slightly uncharacteristic in formation (though genuine) it may not receive a Gem Mint 10 grade. A PSA Gem Mint 10 autograph must not only be aesthetically beautiful in terms of placement but it must also be representative of the common/traditional autograph patterns of that person.

Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on October 20, 2016 at 8:36pm

Not to mention the hideous sticker. Not a full last name example. It does on appearence seem like a way to just build excitement around the psa brand. By saying "look I got a 9 or a 10!" which all it means is someone at PSA said so...And of course the higher the number the next guy thinks they too have to compete and send it off to PSA, which brings in more business for them. I guess I just don't look at collecting autographs the same as baseball cards or comic books because each item and signature is unique.

I would rather have a 1960's example then a graded 10 signed in a poor location and not even a full signature.

Permalink Reply by Jared on October 20, 2016 at 8:41pm

I agree it works much better for certain areas, but if I had to say anything, which means nothing to your train of thought, it would be just understand it rather than combat it. No one says you have to follow it, but if you were to ask me if I wanted a graded 10 set of Queen signatures versus a graded 7, I know what my personal answer would be if all else is similar. 

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on October 20, 2016 at 8:45pm

Once again, not knocking your opinion or preference as to each there own and it wouldn't exist if it didn't matter...So I respect what you are saying. It just does nothing extra for me personally and not what I place value on. That is all.

Permalink Reply by Paul on October 20, 2016 at 10:52pm

I doubt that there has been many Beatles sets submitted for grading, I myself don't buy into the system, I'm happy to have an authentic set, with a strong coa behind it like Caiazzo or tracks.

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Permalink Reply by Jared on October 20, 2016 at 8:52pm

More or less what I'm saying Adam, is that everyone has something that adds value to their item. Just because you don't agree with grading doesn't mean it's wrong, nor is it best. I have items that are of BAD condition, but of the best possibly story and for that reason exceed the value of their quality. If you swing one way or the other, it's just ideology, not a factor of policy IMO. 

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on October 20, 2016 at 8:54pm

I can agree with that.

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