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The Lugosi SPc I sold now with a different photo attached?. **Disturbing pastiche warning.** Originality & context cast aside, or is it entirely fake?
This makes me sick. To think someone would do this...to those that know it also looks ridiculous because this photograph was never used for these later cards! Now it is a modern pastiche with a challenged signature. But is it as challenged before? Nothing disclosed by the seller about that. :-(
There is one less original vintage unmolested Lugosi in the world. Now I wish I gave it to a young collector.
The original as held and signed by Bela Lugosi:
The modern pastiche/altered/"custom" card...is the signature "restored" as well? Altered and smudged is not a good combination I think. Originality over eye appeal any day of the week.
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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I showed a real Lugosi card - before whatever was done with it or to it. It was from Russell and Gary said it was authentic. The other pose is him as Dracula but in 1948-1951 (below). That 1931 image Dracula was never used on the later cards. Lugosi had these printed himself - see the cut off copyright and credit to William Morris and Edith Sharpe or whatever her name was. I don't think he would be so unwise as to use a Universal image of that stature.
Here is a scan of the later Dracula card which also can be found as a 5x7 single weight sepia print:
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I agree. The European kickbacks and all on certain letters are just muddled and appear with some degree of loss or intent.
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Permalink Reply by JK on
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Disturbing and disgusting.
Maybe they "washed" the signature in an effort to eliminate or minimize the smear/smudge?
I note that PSA calls it a "cut" rather than a photo. (Is that normal for the size?). Maybe they could see that it was a cobbled Frankenstein piece. (A Frankenstein Dracula. 😯 ).
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Indeed - a Frankenstein Dracula! It certainly appears lighter overall. Did not look it up - this is a cut? Good! Things being as they should (PSA not passing a contrivance), and having looked again at the auction photo which has the correct darks/lights on the Dracula image, unless the signature area was selected and adjusted that ink looks lighter. And yet, the background is not as light as on my scan. I do recall a darker area where an inscription was removed on a Gleason I handled briefly (until I could return it), so maybe an overall "wash" is indicated? I remember this Lugosi - it was very glossy and the ink was of that flaky look, resting on top of the paper. In areas it appeared more a stain certainly (the smudge esp) but this now looks very odd to me. Something seems very off.
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The current "fading" does not look natural.
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I agree. I thought maybe they physically washed it to try to minimize the smear.
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The state of reproductions has apparently passed me - I thought this "must" be hand signed - seen by PSA FWIW. I am thinking of every other fountain signed glossy I have and I am not coming up with (m)any examples where the ink is just in the photo like this. Thank goodness i am not collecting anymore. It makes the think of a line Spock says to Kirk in Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country. In any event. I'd like to think I'd catch this in hand if I did not know it. With that Dracula image...
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Here is a nice strong 1931/32 example signed in blue fountain pen:
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This is a 5x7 of the later Dracula image that was stolen from Arthur, a gentleman I use to talk to.
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Yes, but look at it - the perception of eye appeal. That is an unreal presentation. If the autograph is in fact a contrivance, then no part is real. PSA always slabbed mix and match things like this (if this is not one surface?). And I have seen slabbed portions of SP's called "cuts" where the whole things is one surface. This is obfuscation at best.
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