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Value of signed Menu, The Imperial, Torquay, 18th August 1963

Hi, My dad went to work , age 15 at The Imperial Hotel, Torquay , England, summer of 1963.

The Beatles only concert appearance in the seaside town of Torquay and they performed at the Princess Theatre.

My dad served the Beatles in the restaurant and chatted quite a lot with them.He told me that he took a menu from the restaurant and later , after work, went to their hotel rooms, knocked on the doors and they all signed the menu for him. He told me that John and Paul were in one room and Ringo and George in adjoining room. There was no security, he was invited into their rooms, chatted an then left with the menu.

My dad has since passed and I am wondering what the value of this original dated menu would be worth if I was to sell this.

Thanks

Julie

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 8, 2017 at 3:40pm

Once you take into account buyer's premiums, most auctions get about 33% of the final price of a consignment, so selling it through Cox at 33% is about the same (I don't know what he charges).

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on November 8, 2017 at 4:00pm

So this is what was explained to me a few years back and I have dealt with him a few times.

Take this for what it is worth from a few years ago as he may have changed his structure since.

"Fee Rates: (Keep in mind, that with Ebay (10%) with Paypal (3%), 13% is taken off the top. So I get the remainder.)
$20 to $50 $43% (I discourage items in this range!)
$50 to $99 38%
$100 to $500 33%
$501 to $3000 $28%
$3001 to $10,000 $23%
over 10k 16%"

That is a copy and paste from a few years back.

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on November 8, 2017 at 4:16pm

I think this is pretty much the formula. So on balance at the top end 23% is pretty good compared to 13% selling by yourself. His reputation is worth the extra 10%. Not sure if he uses reserves anymore which may or may not be a factor here?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 8, 2017 at 4:29pm

Thanks, Adam.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on November 8, 2017 at 4:33pm

No problem. I do think it is worth it for items like this that will break a few thousand. He definetly has a pretty fair amount of followers and as I said the respect of The Beatles and The Beach Boys community.

Permalink Reply by Beatlebum on November 14, 2017 at 3:44am

Hi Adam, just to add. Recently Ebay have added vat charges on the overall fees, an extra 20% vat on your seller fee. Also depending where your sale is Paypal also have extra charges at times (1. Currency Conversion Fee and also a transaction fee for Cross-Border payments). This can bump your Paypal fees up and another 1.5-2.5%... so if you listed the autograph on Ebay Uk for example and someone bought it from abroad these extra fees would come into place in Paypal so your Paypal fees could be around 5% and then with the vat now on Ebay fees I think this bumps up your fees from 10% to around 12%, does that make sense. The long and short of it is that your ebay/paypal fees can bump up to around 17.5%.

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on November 8, 2017 at 4:17pm

I think the difference is around 10% once you get to the top prices.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 8, 2017 at 4:36pm

BTW, if you have an eBay store, the commission on memorabilia is typically 8-9%, and the maximum value commissions are computed on is $2,500. I believe it can go down further than 8-9% if you're a very high volume seller.

For example, a visitor here went to eBay and bought a $13,000 signed baseball from a major seller. I'm an eBay affiliate, so I get half of what eBay gets on memorabilia. I got about $110.

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Permalink Reply by sling on November 8, 2017 at 9:00pm

If you sell internationally you get involved in all sorts of extra taxes on imports/exports, etc

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Permalink Reply by Julie Tipling on November 9, 2017 at 9:08am

Hi, I have had a lovely reply from Perry Cox today.

Hi Julie,
They are authentic. I would love to handle the sale on consignment. My guess is about the $7500 to $10,000 range.
If interested, let me know? thank you dear!
Perry

I have to discuss options with my brother and sister.

Thank you to everyone who replied and added comments and advise.

Julie

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on November 9, 2017 at 10:45am

No problem. Perry is a trustworthy guy I will say if you go that route. Best of luck!

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on November 9, 2017 at 12:15pm

Heres an interesting comparison. Consignment sale at $10000 nets you $7700 assuming a 23% commission rate. Or you sell it privately for $8000 and everybody wins except the consignor and the buyer pays $2000 less. Mind you if you can sell it for $10k yourself then that is a different story.