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Permalink Reply by Dan on October 21, 2024 at 2:44am

It may not always be possible to post photos, especially when time is of the essence for rare or sought after books that are sure to sell out in minutes, or when the OP is on the go. I think a signed books category is a great idea, and something that was missing. Books are books though, and I personally do not think there should be a separate category for politics. People just need to remain cordial and avoid discussing their views on a page which is not meant to discuss politics. That's only my humble opinion. Maybe musicians books might end up being posted both here and on the musicians page, but it might probably be better to have a few duplicates every now and then rather than missing out?

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Permalink Reply by CollectorOfThings on October 21, 2024 at 3:34am

Will we still see books sold by premierecollectibles, waterstones, barnesandnoble and Live Talks Los Angeles alongside other stores appearing here?

In person book signings / event associated signed books / music I'd love to see that stand out on it's own too. Which is where the likes of Waterstones and Live Talks Los Angeles and HMV fit in.

I second what Dan said.

I don't know what happened with the other thread it was fine and dandy until the last week and certainly over the weekend just flooded my inbox with messages without announcing any book sales.

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Permalink Reply by LeChuck on October 21, 2024 at 5:29am

My only ask is that the moderation be consistent. It was not consistent on the other forum that was shut down - the positive political opinion was kept up (and still is despite being against the rules) - which was the major catalyst for people arguing in that thread. 

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Permalink Reply by Rich on October 21, 2024 at 6:21am

I'm not following what could still be upsetting you there, but if you really need me to take it down I will. That aside, I was considering shutting down that thread well before political anything was brought up due to a signature study/autopen comparison and additional commentary taking over a thread that wasn't really built to accommodate those types of asides. And other forum members had been expressing frustration about things going so off course in the musicians direct section in general.

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. on October 21, 2024 at 6:50am

Jeez, sorry to clog up an autograph forum with an autograph study. I thought I was maybe helping someone and had no ulterior motives. There was no other place to post it where it would get seen by those who were tracking (therefore the need for the additional thread that was just created). I can’t help that some folks can’t control themselves. 

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Permalink Reply by Rich on October 21, 2024 at 7:05am

Apologies if that came off wrong. It wasn't meant as a personal knock on posters so much as citing a bad situation. The fact that there was no other place to post it was the problem, really. That thread was turning into the same issue that lead to the creation of Musicians Direct forum section as opposed to single messy thread that led to members' frustration. I'd put it there originally because there was no other good outlet for that info, and it was a meant as an aside to the rest of the forum. And it was supposed to be stopgap, but it's 3 years and 2500+ posts later. I'm thankful that Steve came up with this solution.

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. on October 21, 2024 at 12:27pm

Yeah, it came off a bit wrong Rich. I put quite a bit of time and effort into trying to help, only for you to suggest I was a nuisance or out of line.

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Permalink Reply by LeChuck on October 21, 2024 at 7:05am

Matt, you aren't to blame for it. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 21, 2024 at 11:07am

Matt, we LOVE autograph studies! But Musician-Direct and Direct Book Signings forums are for signings—unless there are concerns that the piece wasn't authentically signed. We have lots of places to post those. What's it on? 

Rich, now that I think of it, what do you think of a forum just for Musician-Direct and Direct Book authenticity concerns? When there's an issue members can start a discussion and link to it in that forum. We'll put the link in the OP so it's clear from the start.

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. on October 21, 2024 at 11:44am

Steve, thanks for your reply. I was tracking the Melania signatures in non-musician section as the initial reaction was suspected autopen (which, according to your reply, would be an appropriate place to do it).

I get that it’s probably best right now not to post anything from the political realm. There have actually been several political items that I have not posted just to avoid the political comments, but I thought it was worth the risk for folks to get Clinton for $38 or find out if their $75/$150 Melania book was autopen.

Clearly, folks wanted to use this as a forum to vent their political concerns which I don’t agree with and was not my intention…and when another member and I started a cordial discussion about our mutual interests in politics, I moved it off the thread.

Appreciate the idea of an authenticity thread but as you said, we usually discuss those concerns in the existing, if concerns arise…that’s my preference but I know some members don’t like it. So maybe it’s best to have it separated but just seems like it could get lost. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 21, 2024 at 12:00pm

I think that if we put a link to the authenticity discussion on that signing it won't get lost, and collectors can scan them to find out about authenticity concerns quickly.

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. on October 21, 2024 at 12:12pm

I think that sounds good, appreciate it

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