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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on December 1, 2011 at 11:05am

Just a note...

I would be very careful about blindly trusting these cut insert cards. They are not 100% safe. Richard Simon has exposed a number of them where the card company used a fake. There are also threads on Net54 detailing questionable ones.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on December 1, 2011 at 11:24am

not only that but in many cases, and Richard Simon has pointed this out, they will take a very valuable piece and cut it to fit into their card layout, thus rendering the autograph virtually worthless.

 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on December 1, 2011 at 11:33am

Precisely why I choose not to buy or support these cards. For some insane reason, they tend to go for more than the original document they were cut out of.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on December 1, 2011 at 12:42pm

I don't understand that either. I've seen some which obviously came from a signed contract, those don't need to be cut up and gussied up. I always see signed checks which have cut (possibly folded?) to fit into smaller packaging for these companies. Then you've got authentication companies that take vintage items and affix a sticker to the front of them. I wonder how much respect these companies actually have for the integrity of the items they come in contact with.

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on December 1, 2011 at 1:18pm

I actually saw at a show that a guy got a vintage card signed by Ted Williams authenticated by JSA and JSA did NOT want to put the sticker on the item because the picture was on the cert. I never seen that happen but it did

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Permalink Reply by David Jackson on December 3, 2011 at 11:43am

I hate seeing these cards where they cut up game used jerseys and signatures.  It really gets me hot.  I'm a big history buff and its destroying histoy in my opinion.  but to each their own.  Im not saying I wouldnt love to have a cut auto of babe ruth or something, cause I would.  But I certainly dont support cutting historic things up to put into cards.

I would love to have a babe ruth ball either a single signed or a yankees team ball.  it would all be nice for me.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on December 5, 2011 at 12:12pm

It must be profitable for them or they wouldn't do it. I'm not sure of the business philosophy which says a dinky little cut in a case is worth more than a signed contract or something similar. Those are the items which will stand the test of time, instead they're turned into something that fits into a pocket.

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Permalink Reply by David Jackson on December 5, 2011 at 12:22pm

yeah, im sure its all about profit and not preservation.  The whole baseball card industry is like the lottery.  your paying way more than what a pack is worth hoping you will pull something valuable.  thats their way to make a card valuable.  its still need to have a piece, because a person like me would never be able to afford a real babe ruth or mickey mantle jersey or bat, so a piece is nice, but the fact that they destroy it sucks.

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Permalink Reply by David Jackson on December 4, 2011 at 3:18pm

I would also like a John Dillinger signature.  Not sure how many if any are out there, but it would be cool.  Been to his boyhood home here not to far from indy.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 4, 2011 at 4:01pm

Dillinger is RARE. Be prepared to pay over $10,000 for a cut...if you can find one. 

Oh, darn it...you just missed one at Coach's Corner that went for $224..with a Christopher Morales COA. Or is that a COF: "Certificate of Fraud"? 

http://myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=295394

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Permalink Reply by David Jackson on December 4, 2011 at 4:34pm

LMAO!  Oh darn, that was a steal.

Yeah, $10k is out of my budget.

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Permalink Reply by Greig on December 6, 2011 at 8:02am

I just bought a guitar owned and played by Jimmy Page, all I need now is John Lennon's handwritten lyrics and thats me got the main items I've always wanted but even if I sell my house I won't be able to afford the Lyrics...

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