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Jason had started a thread; http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/what-is-exact-proof-...  

and like all good threads there are discussions witin discussions but this sub-discussion came up on a dealer Milton Lubin & http://www.substancecollectables.com/boxing_hall_of_fame___1

It appears that in 2003 although the Lubans were properly served but they failed to answer the complaint.

DECISION AND ORDER
MARRERO, District Judge.
By order dated July 22, 2003, the Court authorized entry of a default judgment in favor of plaintiffs Tiffany (NJ) Inc. and Tiffany and Company (collectively, "Tiffany") and against defendants Milton and Connie Luban and their company Luban Incorp. (collectively, the "Lubans"), the proprietors of an internet site selling counterfeit Tiffany merchandise in violation of the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1114(1), 1116(d). Upon consideration of Tiffany's written and oral evidence as to its damages, the Court awards Tiffany a judgment in the amount of $573,818.64.

 

Jason went on further in one comment;

This link is the link with the guy and the actual photo we have on files one doctored that has the guy mentioned above.

http://bertorelli.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/rocky%c2%b4s-boxing-glov...

On 17 May 2012 the guys who were building a file heard the following news : He received a letter from the lawyers of Prince Marketing and Super Star Greetings today. Telling him to remove all items and images of Joe Frazier, Micky Ward, Roy Jones Jr, Hulk Hogan, Chuck Zito, Vinnie Paz and the Super Star Greetings logo. This guy is total scum and is getting what he deserves.

The most famous website in the world for tackling fakes did a special on him here you can read it for your selfs. click the link.

I wont pu the photos yet I will leave them as aces in our hands till we have too but I believe there is enough here to make your minds up if this is true or not.

http://www.isitreal.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=7...

 

Recently I received some photos that appear to have been photoshopped and were alleged to be used by Milton Lubin to promote his product offerings.  The one on the left is what has been alledged as the real one while the one on the right has been alledged as fake ones that were used as "proof" pictures.

One recent excerpt from Jason;

Ps yes DB strange here seems no one in America cares about what s going on in their door step and on of this forums own.    (sometimes Jason - it takes some extra cycles ;-)

Since I have no dogs in this fight and Milton Lubin is an AML member here as was pointed out in the intial thread above, it would be pertinent to have some feedback on these claims and allegations.

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Milton was suspended. 

Steve asked previously for Milton to not use profanity, but he continued after being warned. 

wascher

Make me keep my mouth shut. I'm just getting started. There are ties between this member and another member ID that stands up for Milton. Won't sat why but I will let him bang himself. YOU DON'T LIKE MY INPUT THEN GO STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND NERD. Or ask your buddy Milton to come from behind closed doors. IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

I never get nice emails like that anymore.  He died in 2004 and fathered a child in 2006?  I also want to the join the Little Geek Group where is it?

It's also very interesting he got my name. Since I wasn't the one who filed the report. Seems Milton watches this site to keep up to date with those tracking him.
Wow...not many guys die 3 years before their kid is born. He must have been incredibly verile!
I know right. That is what I'm saying, I don't do any social media. Except for your site which I joined last night. Its very interesting since he couldn't give me my full name. Only what I posted on this site.
Oh. You can believe me Milton. We will do and have done more work than you think. Nothing but a little scammer that can't find a safe place to sell more fakes. You don't mean a damn thing to me Milton and your mouth and scamming buyers. You are TRASH and the worst kind there is. You can get all worked up you want and try and hurt my feelings with your childish little remarks but you only make me laugh harder. I am a steel worker with a nice grip. Invitation still stands for you to show up at my front door with your big mouth.
I respect Steve and he did ask for no profanity so I apologize for any I made. It's really hard to contain yourself against Milton. He is as low as low comes
My father an honest business owner, always told me." Don't roll in the mud with the pigs. The pigs have all the fun."

Guard, Brad, etc., is it ok with you - if Milton agrees to not use profanity - to come back on the forum.  He is asking to explain his side and says he's trying to defend himself. 

If profanity happens from either side again in this conversation, they'll be removed, is that fair?

-w

Absolutely not I haven't used any profanity just stating the facts. I'm not letting this guy bully me.

Brad I didn't say you used profanity.   I asked if Milton agree's to not use profanity, I'll allow him back on. 

I was actually responding to Guard admitting he too used profanity.  We want to remember that its ok to have debates, even to fight about things, but we want you guys to keep it clean.

-w

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