Yesterday and Today 4th State Signed by all four beatles

I am fairly certain that these signatures are autopen ones like I've seen on beatles fanclub merch. However, I am not entirely sure and am hoping someone with more knowledge could help me. The signatures seem to be in a slightly different position than other replicas I have found and the ink is faded as well. I have close up pictures of all of the signatures as well but the seller has not disclosed the condition or pressing. Please and thank you!

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 20, 2025 at 4:35pm

No good. They aren’t autopens.

Permalink Reply by Joseph Millikan on April 20, 2025 at 4:42pm

They aren't real, but they also aren't autopens? 

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 20, 2025 at 4:48pm

They look like forgeries to me.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 21, 2025 at 12:04am

Agreed. These are just plain old amateur forgeries.

Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on April 21, 2025 at 9:04am

they are just forgeries

Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on April 21, 2025 at 10:52am

Same signatures on this 1964 card...almost.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 21, 2025 at 10:55am

Do these signatures look familiar?

Permalink Reply by Joseph Millikan on April 21, 2025 at 11:01am

Yeah, that's what I was thinking but this is also my first time looking at their signatures tbh

I've collected with my dad for a long time but neither of us have ever seen anything signed not at an auction. 

Permalink Reply by Joseph Millikan on April 21, 2025 at 10:58am

Too bad. Not sure what I expected from Facebook marketplace though lol

Thanks y'all 

Also, how can you tell? What things do you look for?

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 21, 2025 at 11:05am

"Also, how can you tell?"

How much was asked? For Autopens you can tell from application if you have an eye or you can find a matching example. For forgeries based on Autopens you look for a slow, drawn quality and an unusual/impossible match as here. Look at the bottom of the "G" in "George" on the OP and the other examples posted - slow and odd.

Permalink Reply by Joseph Millikan on April 21, 2025 at 11:10am

Ok, I get what you're saying about the slow and odd.

Also he didn't ask anything, made me give an offer and I said I wouldn't be comfortable with much over market price for the pressing if they aren't certified. Glad I didn't jump the gun!

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on April 21, 2025 at 11:27am

Requesting an offer is  a bad sign IMO.  Very glad you said what you did and came here for opinions :-) Well done! Were I to go after a Hendrix or Beatles knowing what I do now from this site how a new signatures can be made with a plotter using several authentic examples to create a "new" arrangement I'd be very hesitant.

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