Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 18, 2011 at 1:37pm

I took high resolution scans of three Mantles from AAFES that were sent to me, and sent crops of the signatures out to two friends who know their stuff. Both felt strongly they were forged, not any sort of autopen. Both thought the forger could have used a projection or lightbox...but not necessarily!

What a great education.

Comment by CJCollector on May 18, 2011 at 5:38pm

Now here's a piece of garbage Mickey Mantle/Joe DiMaggio autographed photo.  It is "authenticated" by AAU (Drew Max) who claims (as per his website) to be a "Forensic Document Examiner."

http://cgi.ebay.com/MICKEY-MANTLE-JOE-DIMAGGIO-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTO-W-A...

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 18, 2011 at 5:41pm

There wouldn't be bigger shots of those signatures, would there?

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 18, 2011 at 5:42pm

Looks like a closeup would show wavering and wobbly loops under those Ms.

 

Perhaps this forensic examiner does not consider things like speed and flow.

Comment by CJCollector on May 18, 2011 at 5:55pm

From that same seller":

http://cgi.ebay.com/JOE-DIMAGGIO-MICKEY-MANTLE-AUTOGRAPH-AUTO-W-AAU...

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 18, 2011 at 5:56pm

Maybe he doesn't. Here are a few high-resolution Mantles and a DiMaggio from AAFES. One each from Nick Burzyk, TTA and AAU/Drew Max. These are HUGE files, so you can see everything:

[Click to enlarge]

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 18, 2011 at 6:01pm

They should unite and form a new company - TSA

 

Three Stooges Authentication.

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 18, 2011 at 6:03pm

The third fake down with the light blue background... you can really see the slow chugging motion throughout the first M. 

 

Really makes me wonder if it is tracing some sort of projection or they overlay something very fine and subtle onto the photo and write over it.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 18, 2011 at 6:12pm

If you enlarge them you can see it on all 3, but most of all on the first M. Did you notice it on the J of Joe? and the wavering in the downstroke?

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 18, 2011 at 6:15pm

Yeah... the right side of the J is really bad.

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