"Damien Hirst recently did 10,000 dot paintings if I remember right and none were painted by him... but he did hand sign them. Jeff Koons doesn't make his balloon sculptures. Maurizio Cattelan doesn't sculpt his sculptures. Lots of artists…"

"Trump also used autopen when he sold "signed" books to his supporters when running for president. So they have that in common."

"It was a joke, hence the "lol"... but either way more than likely a fact that they wouldn't send out signed COA's, and on top of that why would anyone trust their word that they're hand signed by Dylan if they did? "

"What if the "real" signed COA comes and it's the same questionable handwriting as the prints lol. I'd assume that's what would happen. They'd have to video the signing, which I doubt Bob will ever let happen. "

"I agree. I don't see how there wouldn't be damages to anyone who owns any other print now. I guess holding value isn't a guarantee in art, but their fraudulent actions would be what caused all the prints to be forever tainted...…"

"I don't think it's that TPAs/experts cannot be trusted or that anyone is saying that... I think you're arguing 99.9% proof with 100% proof. A signature you seen signed yourself, or see a video of it directly being signed (as long as…"

"I'm a skeptical person, but it seems like he purposely plays games with his signature to make it impossible to be sure he signed it unless you see him do it... which would be the perfect way to hide secretarial or autopen signatures and get out…"

"I'm not a lawyer and so I could be wrong but I think for a civil case you wouldn't have to prove to the same extent as you would with a criminal case... but that would only apply if someone planned to sue. "

"Agreed. There may be ones that are 99.9% more than likely real, and that's fine with almost any other signer... but uncovering this fraud and in this very exceptional circumstance of someone who almost never signs, and goes out of their way,…"

"Is it just me or do these look like they were signed by two completely different people? It's like you'd have to try to change your handwriting to make it that much different. "

"Exactly. "

"I'd report it if I was in their jurisdiction. I reported it to the FTC but never got a response, at least yet... but I don't expect them to care. I've never gotten any help from any consumer protection agencies when I've tried or…"

"I didn't say it was fake. I asked what auction house it was so I could look at it. If I had looked at it I wouldn't have asked what auction it was, and if I didn't look at it how would I know if it's fake or not? I did say many…"

"That could explain Dylans signature changing so many times lol. "

"That would make sense and be good for collectors... but then there's the problem of who would actually enforce those rules? We see Dylan doing millions in fraud and it doesn't seem like anyone in law enforcement would be concerned with…"

"Is it a legit auction house? I've heard a lot of charity auctions sell fake items. "