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Billie Holiday Autograph
Started this discussion. Last reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin Apr 16. 480 Replies 0 Likes
I purchased this 78 vinyl record purportedly signed by Billie Holiday…Continue
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"There are other Holiday records on that site. Not many, but maybe 3 label signed total. I mentioned that."
"Since this is the only known signed Holiday record, this estimated falls in the $10,000–$15,000 range."
"Steve, I totally agree with you and Ryan. Let's put this discussion to bed.
It's perhaps worth mentioning that I did look at the "Billie" part in a post on 5 April. I'd have been happy to elaborate on the points I made but…"
"Steve, I agree completely. Pug isn’t going to change my mind, and I’m not going to change his."
"Pug, every TPA makes mistakes. Every one of us makes mistakes. And sometimes knowledgeable people disagree on authenticity.
We don't know who at JSA examined it, of course. We know Roger did, and he liked it. I did, very carefully. I am very…"
"Thanks for your reply Ryan.
If you read my post again you will see that I was not trying to write a conclusion myself, I was simply pointing to missing facts and inaccuracies in yours.
I didn't mention Roger's LOA because you already…"
"Let’s start with your point about “completeness,” because that cuts both ways. You emphasized JSA rejection and the seller’s lack of response—but conveniently left out that the autograph received a positive opinion from…"
"Thanks for your conclusion Ryan. I have been busy doing other things over the last week or so but I'd like to take up this discussion again.
I don't remember anyone writing a conclusion to their own discussion before. It's a pretty…"
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Original Seller Description:
“Autographed by Billie Holiday for someone with KHON, Hawaii. I obtained a number of records formerly owned by KHON, and this one was found among them. Probably VG/G+, but what is important about this…"
"Ever heard of the site ValueYourMusic.com? I didn't until two days ago. I was searching and digging as hard as I could to try to find Ryan's Billie Holiday signed 78 came from. I found it there! Along with a price it sold for back in…"
"If this ever goes up for sale, it will be in the $15,000–$20,000 range—no question."
"JK, you’ve said a lot without actually saying anything of substance. Calling me rude is ridiculous. I’m not going to sit here and agree with or praise people—regardless of their experience—just because they’re offering…"
"What’s actually happening is people, including you, jumping in late, repeating the same tired points and pretending it’s meaningful analysis when it’s already been addressed multiple times.
Your comment above is, to put it kindly,…"
"Steve, I didn't originally intend to look at the "Billie" but when you asked if I'd looked at the first name I offered to make a "quick" comparison between the OP and the examples sold by RR. I did this and posted my…"
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