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Autograph Magazine Launches Signed Beatles Album Census

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Beatles albums signed by John, Paul, George and Ringo are among the most valuable and desirable Rock ’n’ Roll collectibles. Only about 125 are known; most being their first album, “Please Please Me.” But how many signed Beatles albums really exist?

Autograph Magazine wants to find out.

Announcing Autograph Magazine’s Signed Beatles Album Census. Our goal is to locate and track every Beatles album signed by the Fab Four, in order to preserve our musical heritage and help protect collectors against forgeries. If you have an album signed by the Beatles, I encourage you to have yours counted. It's free.

And if you have a Beatles album signed by all four band members, you’ve got something quite valuable. Albums in good condition typically range from about $15,000 for the most common one, “Please Please Me,” to well over $100,000 for some of the rarest albums, especially U.S. releases. Most are so rare they're worth in the mid-5 figures or more.

Even albums signed by just three are very rare and can be worth tens of thousands of dollars.There will be a section of the census for these.

And while extremely rare, albums signed by both John Lennon and George Harrison and missing Paul McCartney and/or Ringo Starr have a chance of being completed—so we've decided to have a section of the census for those, too.


Most Beatles Albums Are Extremely Rare or Unknown Signed

You wouldn't know it by the hundreds of albums offered online and in some memorabilia galleries, but band-signed Beatles albums are very hard to come by. Many are currently unknown, or there are only one or two examples. Some are "secretarials," where some or all of the autographs were signed in the Beatles' names by their management, staff...and occasionally one of the Beatles signing for others. But most are outright forgeries offered by sellers that prey on the unwary. They often come with certificates of authenticity from dubious authenticators and forensic document examiners.

Rule of Thumb: Only "Please Please Me" commonly sells for under $30,000 signed, and the occasional "With The Beatles." Any other undamaged band-signed Beatles album priced in that range should be looked at with extreme caution.

How rare are genuine signed Beatles albums? These are Autograph’s estimates of the counts of signed Beatles albums that are accepted as genuine by the legitimate autograph community:


US Release Band-Signed Beatles Albums
7-8 “Meet the Beatles” [As of February 17, 2012]
2 “Help”
1 “Beatles 65”
1 “Beatles VI”
0 “Rubber Soul”

2 “Revolver”
0 “Magical Mystery Tour”
0 “Abbey Road”
0 “Yellow Submarine”
1 “White Album”
1 “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”
0
Let it Be
15-16 Known [Editor's Note: 2 since May 2011 not added.]

[Editor's Note: 3 Meet the Beatles since May 2011 added to list.]


UK Release Band-Signed Beatles Albums
Roughly 75 “Please Please Me” (Their first album, signed in three 1963 UK promotional tours)
16-21 “With the Beatles” (The tail end of their easier accessibility) [Editor's Note: 1 since April 2011  added.]
8-10 “Hard Day’s Night”
3 “Beatles for Sale”
2 “Help”
1 “Rubber Soul”
1 “Revolver”
5 “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”
0 “Magical Mystery Tour” (All reissues from the 1980s and up.)
0 “White Album”
0 “Yellow Submarine”
2 “Abbey Road”
0 “Let it Be”
Roughly 113-120 Known (38-45 plus roughly 75 “Please Please Me” albums)


How to Participate in the Census

  1. Email large images of your album showing the autographs clearly to Beatles@autographmagazine.com, along with your name, state or province, and country. Put “Beatles Census” and the title of the album in the subject line, along with how many signatures are on it: 2, 3 or 4.
    Example: "Beatles Census Revolver 4"
    for a Revolver signed by all four Beatles
    Please only send two signature albums if they're signed by John and George.
  2. Send each album in a separate email.
  3.  Owners of albums will not be disclosed without their permission.
  4. You may request that your album(s) not be publicly displayed without your permission. 
  5.  When possible, we want to inspect your album without knowing where you got it or who authenticated it, so please don't include receipts or authentication papers at this time.  If there is an authentication sticker on an unsigned side of your album, please don’t send an image of that side at this time. We may request an image later.
  6. Images of albums submitted to the census will be available for viewing on Autograph Magazine Live! unless you request we keep yours private. We will not list your name. You’re welcome to participate in any and all discussions

 

Two Levels of Signed Beatles Album Census Registrations:

  1. Confirmed: For albums inspected in person by at least one of our accepted experts. This is in addition to online authentication by several of our experts.
  2. Online: For albums authenticated and approved online only by our experts.

 

Submit your images to Autograph Magazine's Signed Beatles Album Census today!

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Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 26, 2011 at 4:52am
Thorsten,
Thanks. They don't seem to be known among the Beatles specialists. Let's see if we can document them, and hopefully get images. Did it talk about when they were signed or give names of the Scruffs?
Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on May 26, 2011 at 4:57am

Yes - I think the names were mentioned but I don`t have the time to dig that out...

 

Here are some nice fully signed LPs - AND included is a Rubber Soul (signed around 1968) that perhaps hasn`t been listed above!

http://www.recordmecca.com/view_item.aspx?id=428

http://cgi.ebay.de/Autographed-Signed-With-The-Beatles-LP-1963-Trac...

http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=3X7D8

 

thorsten

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 26, 2011 at 5:29am
If they're mentioned in the book we can take it from there. Some were signed by Neil or Mal as you know, so that's a possibility if they weren't signed in front of them.

Thanks for the links. The Record Mecca and eBay/Tracks albums are counted. I'm not sure about Sothebys.
Comment by DB on May 26, 2011 at 6:00am

Here is the Mecca one as sometimes links have a way of becoming outdated.  Good news here is the "coa" is from Frank Caiazzo

 

 

Comment by DB on May 26, 2011 at 6:02am

and a tidbit of information that seems useful;

 

As usual, the Beatles have signed the back of the sleeve (the front sleeve lamination caused pens to skip, so you rarely see a signed front cover).

Comment by Jason Cornthwaite on May 26, 2011 at 6:05am

I believe that there are some pictures of the Rubber Soul LP
that was sold through Sotheby’s  being
signed at the Pier Head in London on the 28th July 1968.

Comment by DB on May 26, 2011 at 6:35am

Here is the Sothbey's one...

 

second mono pressing, 1965, sold with a Daily Mail article, 8th November 1999

 
The vendor, a resident of Wapping Pier Head, obtained the signatures whilst the Beatles took part in the photo-shoot there, Sunday 28th July 1968.

 

Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on May 26, 2011 at 6:59am

The Lennon autograph on the AHDN could possible be written by Julian lennon ;-)

What a shitty signature.  I believe no one could offer a COA for this one if he wasn`t there at the time...

Imo this is not genuine and most likely signed by any other Beatle or Neil.

 

thorsten

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 26, 2011 at 7:22am
Jason,
Thanks. Then this must be the one signed for a young woman, a nurse I think, on the Beatles' "Mad Day Out". You're right, there are pictures of her at the pier getting it signed, I think by John and perhaps more. She came home from work and saw the ruckus on the pier.
Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 6, 2011 at 5:22pm

The 13th or 14th US Label band-signed Beatles album has been discovered...and sold! A "Meet the Beatles"...read all about it:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/unknown-bandsigned...

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