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Ok 1st of all mods feel free to delete if conversation is inappropriate about another group so here is what i have to say been on here for a while now and at some point was invited to join the racc group which idid cant remember when of hand jand enjoyed looking what they had to offer and bought a coulpe of items fom there members so as it comes to all us collecters we have to much so decided to put up some hi end items for sale which created a lot of interest and sales now thisis what happened on wed one of the mods messaged with concerns about i could have a false account as i have no profile picture and only had 15 friends? Did i know any autograph hunter in the uk and the only one on know is jason thanos but i have never graffed with him not seen him for about three years and it was only on nodding terms sat best fast forward to thursday had a seller waiting to buy messaged same mod asking can i proceed yes was the answer i explained to what what was happening and he said he would rather buy via ebay ok listed it he bought it has not payed for it as yet then i found i had been removed from racc now i know its a busy weekend in usa and have messaged the moderator and am extremely dissopointed to date i have had no reply so any ideas from aynone would be i great help to me as i cant understand what s going on i like to think im one of the good guys regarding buying and selling of autographs and in this situation i feel unfairly treated by racc alan

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 25, 2016 at 3:17pm

Ian, when you buy a graph whether its from Stevie nicks mums old shop or from one of the ip dealers, that signature has to stand up in it's own because your going to own it in the end and perhaps one day you want to sell it. So you want to try and buy the best example you can.
There are only a few names that really stand up in the ip community like Mike werhmann.
So what im getting at is names associated with buying a graph wont cut it if i want to consign something and it doesnt pass One of the credible tpa's.

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Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on December 25, 2016 at 3:20pm

Paul, great post. All good points.

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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on December 25, 2016 at 3:30pm

While I haven't purchased from Stevie Nicks moms old store. I get it, but I know what I have. If I need to I can get my stuff "stickered" or certed. The 3 guys I have mentioned are all very credible with multiple proofs.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 25, 2016 at 3:43pm

Provenance can be very helpful purchasing graphs,its nice to know if possible where and when they were signed, but to put that first to buy a sloppy mc graph wont work.

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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on December 25, 2016 at 3:50pm

I would never buy a sloppy Paul. I have this nicely signed one with Perry Cox COA and a nicely signed "Painintings" book with Tracks U.K. COA. No junk for me!

Permalink Reply by Paul on December 25, 2016 at 3:57pm

It is indeed a nice mc, Ian.

That where i can see a lot of inexperienced collectors falling into a hole buy from a ip collector/ dealer.

Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on December 25, 2016 at 4:02pm

I'm surprised nobody is piping in about George Micheal dying!

Permalink Reply by Bjorn VDB on December 26, 2016 at 6:01am

That's true Paul.
It is a big mistake I made in my early days of collecting and I'm sure for many others too: I just wanted the autograph, but I didn't look at the quality of the signature, possible reselling value etc...
That's why I'd never consider buying something like that sloppy Macca. It might come from a valuable source, but without exact proof, rock solid provenance or a letter from like Caiazzo, the value lowers a lot imo. And even if you never plan to resell it, why buy a bad example from your favorite artist? Tons of better examples for sale out there.

Another example: some months ago there was a Bowie picture for sale on RACC for 2500 dollars. Again I'm no expert, but I never saw a similar sloppy one like that. And the so called proof pics where pics from encounters with Bowie from 10 years before or so, none in where he signed the specific picture. If you study a lot and grow as a collector you know it's market value is... well not even 500 dollar imo.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 25, 2016 at 6:32pm

+1 many times.

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Permalink Reply by Bjorn VDB on December 26, 2016 at 6:06am

Indeed, Kanye West for example. Absolutely worthless and ugly without exact proof. I'd never understand people want to buy that.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 25, 2016 at 4:06pm

There will be none left the way its going.

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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on December 25, 2016 at 4:10pm

And quite honestly I was thinking to add to Petes Autograph common sense thread. My advice is to save money and buy the better graph with the finest provenance. I see peole now selling the horrible Pauls for a grand, not good as an investment.Savy collectors want quality!