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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 4, 2017 at 9:02am

Is there a clearer image of the LOA? I can't even read the number or which office it was supposedly authenticated at—very suspicious. I would be very surprised if they certified a preprinted book. They definitely wouldn't have if Roger looked at it.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on July 4, 2017 at 9:11am

You know, I'm seeing Z31742 on the cert, which does not seem to come up as a match on JSA's database.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on July 4, 2017 at 11:58am

They did it. JSA is the new GA. They sticker everything nowadays. I'm glad I don't have any JSA items in my collection. They are so bad their sticker will eventually hurt the value of authentic stuff with their sticker. My 16 year old daughter would have known this was bad.

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Permalink Reply by Corey Moylan on July 4, 2017 at 9:03am

Yikes. JSA is by far the worst of the big three. PSA isn't too far behind either

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on July 4, 2017 at 9:21am

If the number is not in their database then it's probably a fake cert.  Can't believe JSA would make such a bad mistake as every U2 collector would know those are pre-prints. 

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Permalink Reply by Rich on July 4, 2017 at 9:26am

Someone on RACC suggested that JSA might not be in the clear as JSA might not have the info in the database yet. Item was supposedly "authenticated" in late May.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on July 4, 2017 at 12:02pm

JSA getsmusic and celebrities wrong so often it's no longer a mistake. It's either on purpose or their authenticators are incompetent.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 4, 2017 at 9:30am

Compare how crisp and clear the autographs are to how fuzzy and unreadable the LOA is. I doubt it's a real one.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on July 4, 2017 at 10:00am

Hard to tell if it's the cert or a product of the photography itself. Seller appears to have other JSA certed items.

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Permalink Reply by Samuel John Clifford on July 4, 2017 at 2:04pm

I see everyone's talking about JSA, and yes they seem to have gotten bad. I understand this may be a little off topic from "U2" but here's 2 No Doubt signed 8x10 signed by the band authenticated by JSA. These are blatant forgeries, on the first photo JSA states that there are "3 signatures on the piece" but there are 4. Cert Number is R89219. How this got certed, I'll never know. The other photo I've found doesn't look right to me either, seller is out of Canada, The cert and photo will be posted below.

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on July 5, 2017 at 1:08pm

The U2 book is no longer on Ebay (at least going to the link that was originally posted).  I asked the seller for the cert number and got no response. 

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Permalink Reply by Mike White on July 7, 2017 at 8:12pm

I see a few things about this that cause me to raise my eyebrows.

1) It's awfully convenient that the sticker is on the letter, rather than the item itself. Though an aesthetic choice some collectors make, it also makes it easier to fake in 2D.

2) It looks like there might be an embossed seal next to the notary stamp, but (if it's there & not just an illusion) it looks flat rather than raised.

3) I can see the writing from the page underneath it, even though this is a photo, rather than a scan. For it to come through in a photo taken at that distance, the paper would have to be quite thin.

4) Despite being able to see the content of the paper underneath, I see no sign of any sort of watermark.

I make no judgments either way, but if I were considering buying that item, those things combined would give me pause.

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