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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on October 16, 2017 at 3:07pm

Ballroom - that letter does not mean that Steve Grad approved that Jerry Lee Lewis.. common on now, you know that.  It does not mean that Steve Grad even saw that graph pictured. 

Mark

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 16, 2017 at 3:24pm

Right. Before I sent the book in, PSA would never authenticate it. After it was correctly authenticated and signed off on by Grad, it doesn't matter. They authenticated Jackie Gleason secretarials, and he probably just blindly signed the LOA anyway.

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on October 16, 2017 at 7:15pm

All in the world is right again...we are discussing the infamous JLL graph. 

Anyway, here is a cool listing with neat pictures. The Killer and Dr. Nick

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 17, 2017 at 12:57pm

Can we be confident that these signatures are in two different hands? The top one was sold through RR Auction, while the bottom example is the PSA/DNA authenticated book signature. Does anyone question the top example?

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on October 17, 2017 at 6:20pm

I can certainly see your point here.
On the other hand, I don't recall many examples of the y stopping like this. Sometimes when the y is straight he doubles back up to start forming the first L. The following is about the only other example like this, other than the books.
https://jerryleelewisblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/jllpsau00383....

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 17, 2017 at 6:37pm

Thanks, Chad. I think we've seen several others. You don't like the GBOF signatures? How about this one?

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Permalink Reply by Sidney Fields on October 18, 2017 at 5:54am

Since this seems to have become a perpetual discussion, allow me to again point out a significant issue that is being overlooked.

Posters here are autograph people.  So it's natural to look at just the signed document for "proof" of an item's authenticity. 

However, for me, there is something much more telling than signature comparisons or even PSA/DNA's "authentication."  That is, when WPIX-TV in New York tried to authenticate the book signatures by tracing their origin, not a single person or company in the autograph chain acted in a manner consistent with the signatures being authentic. Not one.

That speaks loudly.

http://pix11.com/2015/04/08/buyer-beware-jerry-lee-lewis-book-autog...

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on October 18, 2017 at 6:31am

Very good point - Sidney. 

Mark

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 18, 2017 at 9:24am

So true. 

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 18, 2017 at 9:55am

I did ask JW about it and he said he doesn't sign autographs for JLL. JLL told the Memphis Business Journal that his hand was getting tired from signing the books. This was prior to any accusations that someone else signed them. Judith also stated that JLL signed the books. 

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 18, 2017 at 2:44pm

so you really believe that they would come clean after deceiving their fans TTM and now the books?  Come on........  

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 18, 2017 at 2:51pm

As far as I'm concerned, the signatures back up the statements. All of this time and the book signature and TTM claims amount to absolutely nothing. Zero. Five signatures were presented as examples of TTM secretarials, all of which were said to be consistent with each other. A while later, another signature that is obviously consistent with one of those five was offered for sale by the same person. If that doesn't tell you that there's a problem, nothing will. Now we have a signature that was pre-certed by that same person, and the owner of this site is saying that it's "without a doubt" consistent with the book signatures(!).

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