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we need Kato to answer as the final say I would think.
Not sure there is another qualified opinion on Bruce Lee
what's the asking price for this poem?
this seller is really shooting for the biggy stars
Monroe is a NO for sure and seems this Lee is leaning same direction
15 grand is the price for the Bruce Lee. That's a lot of wood. The more I look at the signature itself under that poem, the less I like it, and I wasn't convinced by it from the start.
15 big ones is about right IF legit
But unfortunately this is not even worth the kindling to start a fire
Im glad Steve and Joe stepped in. I agree this handwriting looks like a different animal and Im very impressed Steve got to examine real Lee ink in person. Just WOW to that
This thread has been a lot of fun
Damn Kato must sleep a lot... where is that dude? lol
I'd still love to hear his insights
His entire memo book journal is available too. It's probably digitized somewhere. Probably another hundred pages.
His handwriting is very liberally used in his diagrams in what is probably Bruce Lee's most read book, "Tao of JKD", the ultra-reactive, formless martial art that he eventually realized.
Also, look at the edge fading (forget the correct term for this)
It looks like the paper was framed
Well why does the ink go into the color change zone?
And why would the frame cover the ink?
And why is the ink not faded?
It looks like fresh ink on old or made to look old paper
Eric might be able to help here if he has the time
Im sure I didn't word all this properly
Appleton may have a good point that this piece is some kind of high tech counterfeit item.
The sig looks like a real Bruce Lee... BUT...
"And why is the ink not faded?"
Not all ink fades uniformly. The extent of fade is dictated by the composition of the ink being affected by the storage medium and environmental considerations where it's stored.
I think I can address this with more confidence. If Bruce Lee wrote these pages, that I just examined using magnified view:
http://natedsanders.com/fantastic_bruce_lee_autograph_letter_signed...
then that is not Bruce's handwriting on the poem. The buck stops here. It's NG.
it may be pieced together, chopped up pieces of Bruce taken from other writings, then pieced together in a new order, but it does not have the natural flow of characteristics atypical to his hand.
The one Nate Sanders sold is slam-dunk Bruce Lee in my opinion. The one in the original post doesn't compare to it.
Goodcat, like the Nate Sanders example shows, letters from way back don't have to be faded or degraded, but they should look original and not like they were signed yesterday.
Letters, in fact, tend to weather the years in better condition than autograph albums, presumably because they're often put away soon after reading and aren't handled a lot.
Indeed and I agree
But in this case, my main point was that the paper condition did not match the ink condition. Maybe I didn't present what I meant properly.
might I be correct about this?
Jeez I'd better get a second and third job if I ever want to afford a real Bruce Lee sig haha
You are absolutely right, Goodcat. The paper looks old and weathered to me. The ink looks like could have been written yesterday to me.
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