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Nirvana autographs

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Hi,

Could anyone help me authenticating these Nirvana autographs please?

This was found in a loft in Paris.

That is the only info I have.

I have also attached another picture of a record found at the same place and time which is also signed.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Thank you in advance!

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Permalink Reply by Paul on January 25, 2019 at 10:52pm

My guess is this is 93

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on January 25, 2019 at 10:57pm

you guess '93?

Ok cool

now what?

are you sure all you posted is authentic?

Permalink Reply by Paul on January 25, 2019 at 11:03pm

Post some of your exemplars goodcat from 94.

Permalink Reply by Ryan on January 25, 2019 at 11:32pm

Look, Nirvana was on tour for in utero from sept. to the last show. I was actually at the buffalo show! There’s two sets currently on eBay from that show. This is 25 years ago. There’s no way they didn’t sign that whole time. It’s not like they knew it would end so quickly. Business as usual in their minds. It’s obvious in the France tv performance that they still had their best within them. They didn’t know it was ending. It’s probable that they were signing as usual throughout this tour.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on January 25, 2019 at 11:37pm

Ryan Could you post the two sets thanks.

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on January 25, 2019 at 11:40pm

the 2 sets are posted here

have a look

here is a little clue Paul

the boys often changed their sigs throughout the years and messed around

they loved being twisted and hated normality and it reflects in their sigs

the key is being able to read the ink, NOT always the year which it was done for Nirvana

So that brings us back to the OP items. ... Is it real? Some say yes, some say no. I couldn't give a crap what others think anymore

You have proved nothing Paul....

but the fact the item in question did sell for 11K does speak a bit louder. And until it's proven fake, it remains the loudest voice.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on January 25, 2019 at 11:47pm

As for you goodcat proved nothing shown nothing. I'm talking about ink and looking for exemplars 93 / 94.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan on January 25, 2019 at 11:41pm

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Permalink Reply by Ryan on January 25, 2019 at 11:42pm

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Permalink Reply by Paul on January 26, 2019 at 2:45am

Ryan what I don't like about these is the signatures are the same length as each other which is a concern being on an lp.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 26, 2019 at 12:10am

Ryan,

The serious Nirvana collectors I talked to said Kurt's and Krist's signatures were spot-on and period, but one said that Grohl's was not 93-94. I'm not fluent in Nirvana enough to comment on them.

The album has to be seen in person, though, to judge the originality.

What concerns me is that the story doesn't make sense:

A lady finds both albums in her attic(?) in Paris. I've heard that they were found with other albums and I heard that they were not with other albums.
A young couple rented from her and lived there when Nirvana did their last tour in February 1994.
The couple moved out and forget that album and the one presumably signed for another couple who didn't live there. Odd considering that they went to the trouble to get them signed and Kurt died right afterwards.
She sells them to someone.
The person she sold them to probably did a little research before buying them, unless it was a sidewalk sale and they bought them for 5 Euros.
The buyer is smart enough to search for Nirvana FB groups.
The buyer is not smart enough to realize that a band-signed Nirvana album is worth $5,000 on a bad day, so prices them at $800 each, leaving $8,000+ on the table.

While the autographs reportedly look good, no one did any sort of analysis to make sure they're truly original. Some day we're likely to find that many collectors have been bamboozled because collectors and authenticators usually don't do the examinations that are often necessary to rule out sophisticated fakes.

Look at the Hofner violin basses with McCartney autographs on the pick guards that Ballroom found were absolutely identical to ones he signed in US editions of "High in the Clouds."