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Permalink Reply by JamesBrown on March 16, 2021 at 2:03pm

I tried to add some text to this, but couldn’t quite figure it out. I’m new to this site and very recently made a large purchase of some autographed music memorabilia. I have since started to get very nervous about the authenticity of all of these items, purchased on iCollector from the same auction house doing business under the name SoCal Collectibles, and all items came with a letter of authenticity from Premiere Authentication Services. I purchased this microphone and 11 signed albums of various artists and a signed Ramones guitar. After seeing some post from other people with similar LOAs, i’m growing increasingly worried that i may have been scammed by a longtime con artist. If anyone can help me out that would be awesome. I can also provide photos of all the other items in question as well, but just wanted to start off with these.

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on March 16, 2021 at 4:42pm

Unfortunately both the George and Ringo signatures are very bad forgeries.  You should try and get your money back !!!

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Permalink Reply by JamesBrown on March 18, 2021 at 9:08am

i feared as much 

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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on March 16, 2021 at 4:50pm

Terrible forgeries...

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Permalink Reply by Jim McFiver on March 16, 2021 at 5:42pm

Thanks for sharing. It's clear from the learned responses - you've purchased a forgery.

When considering signed Beatles items, it's always healthy to dial back your excitement and use a proper amount of common sense.

For example, what are the odds George and Ringo were in the same place, at the same time, with the same magic marker, signing the same item? If not logical, what are the odds a forger had done it?

In a nutshell, Beatles signatures continue to be blue chip, encouraging an avalanche of fakes and frauds. When these items pop up, rigorously research them, turn to forum such as this, and never 'pull the trigger' until you get a 100% money back guarantee -in writing- should they not be genuine.

Don't be too down on yourself. Most of us have made these 'too good to be true' leaps. The trick is, by becoming a sophisticated buyer, you'll be less likely to fall for these scams again.

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Permalink Reply by JamesBrown on March 18, 2021 at 9:21am

Thank you very much for your detailed response...ya this one stings a bit. I previously owned a signed Zep IV and had to sell it during the summer because i needed funds to get through the pandemic. Came across this auction on iCollector that happened to have that very same album signed as well. I didn’t really think i had a reason to question the integrity of the auction house, but apparently i did. They had so much great stuff, i probably was a little blinded to the red flags and went absolutely nuts buying stuff from this auction. I was so excited to get it all in, but then after seeing the items in person my doubts grew ever more about the authenticity. I tried to get my bank to reverse the transaction, but i just found out today that they declined the dispute saying i needed 3rd party verification on a signed letterhead for each item in dispute saying that they are not what they said they are. Can you or anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you for your time 

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on March 18, 2021 at 10:01am

I would call your bank to see if they would accept letters from PSA or JSA stating that they believe the items to be fake. You would have to pay a fee to either of those companies for each item/letter but it would be better than taking the whole loss on the more expensive items.  

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Permalink Reply by JamesBrown on March 19, 2021 at 11:10am

yes i might just have to go that route. Was trying to not have to spend even more money on this ordeal, but this may be my only recourse.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on March 21, 2021 at 7:55pm

One is not at all ready to buy Beatles autographs if this appears real.

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