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Permalink Reply by Collin on April 25, 2021 at 8:53pm

There are certainly much more knowledgeable people here than me, but it doesn't look good imo.

I think Knaiz is the one that I see selling fake MJs all the time, and GHRR is usually a mixed bag.

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Permalink Reply by Aman Alhamid on April 25, 2021 at 11:28pm

Thanks for your input Collin!

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Permalink Reply by SRM on April 26, 2021 at 5:29pm

Never buy from Knaisz. All they do is sell fakes- they can't be trusted. Signed fedoras are quite rare and the one you have looks fake

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on April 29, 2021 at 4:21am

I'd just add that MJ fans don't tend to miss genuine items at good prices, especially on major international auction sites.

If an item isn't getting bids at its minimum price, then it's either overpriced or fans know something about the provenance that isn't in the description (eg it's a known fake originally sold on ebay or another online platform.)

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Permalink Reply by SRM on April 29, 2021 at 4:28am

Oh yeah it's brilliant to get a bargain but also can make you feel unsure of the authenticity when it's cheap, especially if you don't know what to look for with his autograph. It was amazing that I got my signed dangerous tour programme with a personal message to his friend for only $350 US some years ago. 

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Permalink Reply by John Kimball on May 16, 2021 at 8:00am

can show the signed tour programme?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 26, 2021 at 7:45pm

Ed Kosinski from GHRR may not know about Knaisz's reputation. Point that out, and hopefully, he'll let you out of the sale this time.

It's very important to remember that the terms in many auctions, probably most auctions, tell you to do your research before you bid, because you own it no matter what you find out later. Fraud and certain other thing may allow you to get out of it, but that's usually your responsibility to prove.

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Permalink Reply by Phil on April 27, 2021 at 2:05am

+1 Not authentic imo

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Permalink Reply by Ivo on April 27, 2021 at 2:13am

I would keep my hands off Signed fedora to buy from MJ in the future.
It's too difficult to find an authentic one and if you can find one, it costs a lot of money....

I found 9 pieces that were sold at Knaiz auctions........

None of them are real in my Opinion

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Permalink Reply by Aman Alhamid on May 15, 2021 at 7:26am

Thank you guys so much for everyone's input!

I've stumbled upon another auction currently ongoing.

Which of these do you think are authentic?

1. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/100132677_michael-jackson-stag...

2. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/100132669_michael-jackson-auto...

3. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/100132657_michael-jackson-auto...

I'm inclined to think 3. is authentic...but what do I know XD

I've certainly learned my lesson about bidding before doing the research!

Would appreciate your thoughts on these :)

Thank you all so much!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 15, 2021 at 12:11pm

What's the likelihood that a seller would have 3 genuine MJ signed hats, 2 pairs of signed shoes, a genuine signed Thriller, and more. BTW, those MJ purportedly signed Boris Karloff firsts day covers were determined to be forgeries by Roger Epperson in Sept. 2009.

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Permalink Reply by Aman Alhamid on May 15, 2021 at 12:24pm

Hey Steve,

A great point! I found the Boris Karloff stuff dubious looking as well!

The London signed loafers do look pretty good though.

Think some of them could be legit, maybe?

Are the items all from one seller or from multiple sources?

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