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Gin blossoms $70 vinyl
https://www.ginblossoms.net/merchLolo-Falling For Robots & Wishing I Was One Colored Vinyl (Signed)
Jorja Smith Falling Or Flying signed vinyl
https://www.roughtrade.com/en-us/product/jorja-smith/falling-or-fly...
Be careful ordering old stock from Rough Trade. Some of the sold out items appeared as available on the new site but this has been an error in 3 of my cases. I love the team at RT UK and they rectified their mistakes but the new site is full of errors. Always reach out to the team by phone in relation to old stock. Just a friendly warning.
Just saw this and was curious if this was an official Autograph live twitter page, a member that started it up, or just yet another person stealing our posts and posting them elsewhere. It's just my opinion, but taking stuff we post here and putting it on Twitter just makes it more likely that members of the forum will miss out.
not really unless it became more of an exclusive forum that you had to pay for, if it could go back to the way it was a couple of years ago I wouldn't mind paying to be a member. it used to have more of a community feel with members helping each other, but so many people have found out about it and now and not only are all the dealers watching it, but also all these people that want to feel like they did something by reposting stuff that as you said, we put the time and effort into finding. i check Twitter a lot, and sometimes Redditt, and more times than not anything we post shows up on one or both places within minutes.
I don’t use social media much but I have to think it’s a fairly symbiotic relationship, the posts that come here can’t all originate directly from the artists
We can make it a private group if the members want it.
I can't see how this behaviour can be stopped by going behind a paywall or making the group private. The flippers are already among us. How do you filter out the genuine contributors from those who only do it for profit, copy and paste?
Mikhell, This is true. Ive thought about this and the best way might be an email system. Where info gets sent to people behind the scenes maybe a day before anything gets posted publicly? But even that wouldn't stop this 100%. We would have to start utilizing private messages in bulk between members who we believe to be trusted.
There have been so many times where I've found a cool item but someone beats me to posting on here. This must happen to many other casual hunters on her who are still genuinely in this for the hobby. Collectors who are not as fast or vocal as others would be shut out. If info was shared privately first before going public, they would potentially be able to pick up items not as limited though and it may be a way to get lurkers to contribute more. Over the years, there have been a lot of items I have found already sold out that were never mentioned on these forums at all, so finding other hunters and making them more vocal is something that would need to be encouraged. The more eyes out there the better. A private system could hinder this, but a mix of both public and private might work.
No matter what is done, there just isn't a reliable way to figure out who's buying for profit vs buying for the hobby. A private system would could affect the growth of this site and be a huge obsticle to anyone new to the hobby if not done correctly. A paid for members site would only take a bit of profit away from flippers while costing us collectors more, for the exact same result
My God, I should really stop writing before I'm fully awake. Haha. I hope my last post wasn't too hard to understand. I think I was half dreaming still while trying to type out my thoughts.
I'm just saying, which others have already pointed out, resellers won't be stopped and any effort to weed them out may only end up hurting casual collectors. I mentioned before about a possible tiered system, where certain info is released to known true collectors first, but even that is flawed. When put into practice, items won't actually reach true fans but instead go to the autograph hoarders. In the end, its probably best for celebrities themselves to decide who these items go to, but as long as they only care about sales and profit, that won't happen either
Another good point mentioned is that this site is not the end all be all for posting finds. Its one of many sources. Ive actually posted a few that I found specifically on reddit that was posted on there first. Would that make me just as bad as this Twitter guy in the eyes of reddit members?
I am all for any effort to stop resellers but collectors use many resources for this hobby. Sharing info isn't a bad thing. It creates another avenue for true fans can find things. Maybe the only real solution would be to make the sale of all autographs 100% illegal. I honestly don't see any other way to stop flippers, but that idea itself is impossible and terrible for the hobby
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