Jackie Gleason - Unique or bad forgery?

I know very little about Gleason, but what I have looked up on this site.

This looks like nothing I have seen - So unique or bad?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 26, 2020 at 3:44pm

No, sorry. The dotted "j" is the first problem - I don't recall ever seeing him do that going back to 1936...the matching "a"'s is the second problem...the start of the first "a", form of "k", that "g",the "l" echoing the vertical of the "k", the second "a" as mentioned, the "s" is wrong and the "o" lacks double curls and the "n" is too smooth. Some placement, scale and angle/slant problems as well. 

Is there a break between the "e" and "a" in "gleason"? That would be bad as well.

This is a transitional secretarial C. 1960 move to Miami.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 26, 2020 at 3:58pm

Come to think of it, I have never yet seen this photocard bear an authentic signature. I have seen only one of the previous publicity pose authentically signed.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 26, 2020 at 4:05pm

This is authentic C. 1960 Gleason signature:

Images aren't attaching. Will post it when I can. Looks nothing like the OP which is a C. 1960 photocard.

Permalink Reply by Pete Hruda on February 26, 2020 at 4:21pm

Here is the entire image.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 26, 2020 at 4:30pm

Yes, I know the image. Signed right where Pat Saddleman or the period proxy signer would sign. 

Here is Gleason C. 1960:

When I can post it...

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 3:56pm

The single 1969 signed 1950's slabbed PC on eBay. 

Permalink Reply by Steve on February 26, 2020 at 4:33pm

Definitely fake.  You can also see many areas where the pen was lifted and the same letter was restarted, no flow.

Permalink Reply by Beatlesfan64 on July 18, 2025 at 1:55pm

Any examples of genuine Gleason signatures from the 80s? 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 18, 2025 at 3:32pm

Indeed -

The Vintage Signature of Jackie Gleason 1916-1987 "Ralph Kramden" Thread.

Click HERE. 

New, this year, fresh and updated and with about 50 known authentic exemplars hand picked by me, covering most every year, dated and in chronological order from Oct 1936 to the late 1970's and into the 1980's. It was the black "secretarial bar" (naming each secretary by name and style and period) that changed the PSA Facts page for Jackie Gleason (only), NOT "The Honeymooner's page which contains more forgeries of signatures signed by his last secretary Sydell Spear than the real thing! In addition, down below that is where you'll find links to the same thing for each of the four cast members, each carefully selected by me = Carney, Meadows and Randolph with another link where items signed by all four are shown.

Feedback appreciated.

Eric

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 18, 2025 at 5:21pm

The start point of the first "a" kills it. Forgery.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 18, 2025 at 10:44pm

1980's

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 19, 2025 at 6:33am

And another, See the "a's" - the first one starting point up jumping up from the "J"... and the shape and then the second. Then look at the OP which is also broken up as a a forgery of  secretarial. And not matching any one date as well. It is jumbled. Far too legible as well.

The OP:

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