Authenticity is Everything
Fleetwood Mac - any good ????????????????
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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I make no claim, so I have nothing to show. He who makes a claim is under the burden of proof.
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Permalink Reply by John Freeman on
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The one who "made the claim" was "Mick Jones", who started this post.
I stand by the signatures being 100% authentic, and welcome anyone with information they consider contrary.
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Permalink Reply by Mick Jones on
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Great s sweet Eric .. this guy is a fraud peddling forgery’s
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Come again?
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"The autographs speak for themselves." - John Freeman
Yes, they certainly did. From the poor forgeries posted in this thread (Bowie, Waters, Sinatra. McCartney) I would say they spoke loudly and repetitively.
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Here.These speak volumes. Compare these Orson Welles signatures.
Bear in mind, yours has a false James Mason beneath it which I posted already.
Your item followed by two of mine. The HFS reference seems to be what yours was copied from, so I have left it out. Slant, baseline, negative spaces, loops, formations...all visibly off.
Here are mine, same period:
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Actually, best to show the OP's "Welles' with the one at HFS., which I have not gone over but OP insists is genuine. John's first, then HFS. Apart from many other things, like spatial relations, observe slant, loops, negative spaces see the baseline. Just look at the "r"...whatever the nature of the HFS item, there is a clear disconnect with the OP, despite the fact I believe this HFS was used as a template for the forgery. It was the first things John said - how similar they were. I think there is a reason. for this similarity.
OP's "Welles":
HFS:
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I have never believed you have to be in from of the signer to know if a piece is authentic. YMMV.
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From a statistical point of view if you saw 1000 signings of an autograph you know all 1000 are accurate and real and there is ALWAYS a risk of error if not seeing it for your very own self
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I disagree, One can know.
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Eric, you are correct. If being in front of someone were required for authentication, 95% of PSA and JSA items would be null and void. The most important thing, before looking at any signature, is to know the source, or provenance of an item. There are indeed many, many, forgeries on the web (especially eBay), some extremely clever, even to the trained eye. There are also some clever stories out there... But in my experience, knowing who you are buying from is just as important, if not more important, than what you are buying.
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But in my experience, knowing who you are buying from is just as important, if not more important, than what you are buying...
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That makes no sense if you think about it. It implies that a "trusted source" can't be wrong or make a mistake. Lot's of experienced sellers make honest mistakes. This is why websites like this exist - to provide second, critical and objective opinions on accuracy/authenticity.
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