It’s a shame because I love everything about this album the Muppets, the green color, but I am just not taking a chance on Seth MacFarlane because of the constant auto pens on his items 😢
now at Recordstore UK too! I'm taking the gamble as we rarely get the chance here across the pond for Seth's stuff
As mentioned here, Seth has been widely criticized for using autopens - even in situations where it's borderline illegal (most notably, when he was paid to sign official trading cards for The Orville and used the autopen). However, that was a major headache for Rittenhouse, because they were forced to correct the situation for their customers. To fix the situation, Seth hand-signed a set of replacement cards, and the company allowed collectors to mail in their cards for a swap.
But even though Seth eventually signed them, I'm sure Rittenhouse was furious. It must have been a hassle to handle shipping for all of those cards. And more importantly, their reputation took a huge hit. Their trustworthiness dropped. And I'm sure Seth realized that he was causing problems for his business partners.
This was in 2020, I believe. And ever since then, I think he's curbed the autopen usage to prevent another scandal. His latest album, Lush Life, was personally signed (there are many copies on eBay that were authenticated by the major companies). And I believe that the Orville book that came out last year also had genuine signatures.
So even though Seth has historically been the king of autopens, I believe the Rittenhouse scandal changed things a bit. If you're after Seth's signature, this low price makes it worth a gamble, in my opinion.
Took the risk. I think maybe it's a good one. Small card in the case.
Yes, I think it's real. Seth did the same thing with Lush Life, his previous album from the same publisher. The signatures were on small cards in the case. And they were authentic.
The ink flow is smooth and fluid here. And most notably, you can see a slight streak at the very end where the pen was lifted with speed. Autopens usually leave a "dot" from hesitation at the end.
My only concern is that it's a very lovely signature. And that's rare for Seth. Historically, you either get a nice-looking autopen, or a very rushed "SM". Your signature looks nicely written with a little flair. So either Seth took his time on this batch, or he used one of those new, hard-to-detect modern autopens.
My advice is to watch these on eBay in the coming weeks. There's no doubt that someone will send theirs to Beckett or PSA. If the TPAs are willing to attach their stickers, then I think we can rule out autopens.
But my initial feeling is that these are legit. I'm glad you took the risk, because it seems to have worked out!
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